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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    We're not ignoring it. Blame who you want, there is plenty to go around. The bottom line is that invading and taking out Saddam Hussain was a bad idea from the get go. If you want to blame the Democrats, be my guest. The were as much a part of it as the Republicans were anyway.
    This isnt about blaming anyone for Saddam Hussein. Thats as stupid as Denver blaming last years Super Bowl loss on the SB24 loss against the 49ers. This is about a president that has been completely inept for 6 years. The situation with ISIS did not happen overnight. It didnt catch anyone by surprise. Stop playing the victim card. Geeeeezus...when Hillary is president are you still going to blame Bush for everything that happens during HER administration?

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    This isnt about blaming anyone for Saddam Hussein. Thats as stupid as Denver blaming last years Super Bowl loss on the SB24 loss against the 49ers. This is about a president that has been completely inept for 6 years. The situation with ISIS did not happen overnight. It didnt catch anyone by surprise. Stop playing the victim card. Geeeeezus...when Hillary is president are you still going to blame Bush for everything that happens during HER administration?
    It isn't about blaming anyone, but let's blame Obama. OK, if you want, go ahead.

    Do you really think Hillary is the next president? Republicans aren't even going to try to defeat her? Democrats have no other choice, really?
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It isn't about blaming anyone, but let's blame Obama. OK, if you want, go ahead.

    Do you really think Hillary is the next president? Republicans aren't even going to try to defeat her? Democrats have no other choice, really?
    The current situation IS absolutely on Obama, just as Bush's mistakes were on him.

    And yeah...I think if she will just shut up and go away for the next few years she will win the nomination. I am less certain of it considering her last few months-she has actually been kinda Mitt-esque with some of her comments. And no...I dont think it matters who the republicans put against her or whoever the candidate actually is. I think there are enough of the handout nation that she will be elected regardless. Of course...I also believe she will pick someone like Corey Booker and the entire campaign will be about racism, the war on women, abortion, and minimum wage.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Perhaps the better approach is to stop trying to place blame and instead deal with the problem.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    The primary victims of the ISIS are not Christians, but Shia and other religious minority groups like Yazidis. Christians make up only a very tiny minority of Northern Iraq.
    All are enemies of the pychos and all will be killed.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm wondering where you got your information about the population of Iraq increasing so dramatically, and attributing that to lower infant mortality.
    Every year I get the NYTimes World Almanac with data, usually from UN sources, on such stuff. Generally, the death rate per 1000 ranged from 8.0 to 14.5 from 1980 to 2002 and dropped to 5.2, 5.1, 4.9 from the start of the war. A drop of 3 points in a country of 25 million would mean 75,000 lives saved a year. Infant mortality rates climbed from 18 to 64 per 1000 during the Saddam years and is currently c. 47. Population in 2002 was 22 million. I did not attribute the drop in death rate to infant mortality-it was just one piece of a complex puzzle. Saddam was killing his own people, engaging in wars, and mismanaging health care (made worse by UN sanctions due to the suspected WMD stuff). Someone needs to understand the increase in population unequalled by almost all countries despite being at war from 2003 to 2008.

    It is important to look at data from the same sources consistently.

    And most of the 100,000 plus Iraqis who died were killed by other Iraqis is a civil war that the allied forces were trying to limit.
    http://icasualties.org/Iraq/index.aspx

    If only the media had reported this stuff honestly Obama probably would not have made such errors in judgment. Instead we are left with a situation equivalent to the breakup of Yugoslavia and we should have expected this.
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    We're not ignoring it. Blame who you want, there is plenty to go around. The bottom line is that invading and taking out Saddam Hussain was a bad idea from the get go.
    Actually it worked very well. The genocide stopped, the rape rooms, the attacks against neighbors, and so on. Everyone, including Obama and Biden, said that Iraq was a success. What led to the chaos we see now was Obama pulling all the troops out of Iraq while the country was stable, despite being advised would could, and did, happen.

    If you want to blame the Democrats, be my guest. The were as much a part of it as the Republicans were anyway.
    It would seem, in this case, that the Democrats are responsible. However, if Obama can remove this threat and stop the carnage, he will deserve all the credit.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Perhaps the better approach is to stop trying to place blame and instead deal with the problem.
    Please select appropriate delivery method of the solution.

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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    I am always fascinated by the absurd reasoning by some of the hardcore right wingers when it comes to foreign policy. The Bush Administration's decision to go into Iraq was quite possibly the biggest foreign policy mistake in the history of the United States. Yet the mess today is all the fault of the rather inept president we have in office now? The fact is, none of this would have happened, including the mess in Syria, the rise of Iran, or the civil war and radicalization of Iraq had we continued with the policy of containment of Iraq put in place by Bush Sr, and carried on through the Clinton Administration. We would all be better off if the dictator Saddam was still running Iraq. There would be no ISIS, no Al Qaeda Iraq, no developing a nuke in Iran, no civil war in Syria….

    I swear, some of you right wingers would throw a stick of dynamite into an outhouse and then bitch about their being sh*t everywhere afterwards.
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    Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Perhaps the better approach is to stop trying to place blame and instead deal with the problem.
    Mail this to the Democrat party at the, 2007 troop surge.

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