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$50,000 in marijuana stolen from Seattle dispensary

Summerwind said:
Unfortunately theft of marijuana happens a lot, legal or otherwise, at least with it being a legal dispensary, there were no guns or violence involved as there would've been in an illegal marijuana theft.
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Yeah, because nobody carries guns when they are stealing from legal businesses... :lamo
 
Kushinator said:
Not a matter of proving anyone wrong. Simply a matter of perspective that was evidently lacking.
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What perspective?

Edit: Also, I have a hard time taking anyone seriously on this subject who calls themselves, in essence, "Marijuana Machine".
 
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Summerwind said:
Unfortunately theft of marijuana happens a lot, legal or otherwise, at least with it being a legal dispensary, there were no guns or violence involved as there would've been in an illegal marijuana theft.
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Man’s conviction upheld in Long Beach killing of medical marijuana distributor

LONG BEACH >> A state appeals court panel on Friday upheld a Granada Hills man’s first-degree murder conviction for the killing of a medical marijuana distributor whose body was found in a Long Beach alley more than three years ago.

A three-justice panel from California’s Second District Court of Appeal cited “overwhelming evidence” of Marcel Maurice Mackabee’s guilt, including his admission that he was with Phillip Williamson the day of the murder. The appellate court justices also noted that the Toyota 4Runner that Mackabee was driving was in the immediate vicinity of the alley minutes before Williamson’s body was found on March 24, 2011

Williamson, who picked up marijuana from Northern California and sold it in large quantities to medical marijuana dispensaries, was shot once in the back of the head and dumped in an alley in the 1500 block of Pine Avenue. He died a day later.
 
ocean515 said:
Man’s conviction upheld in Long Beach killing of medical marijuana distributor

LONG BEACH >> A state appeals court panel on Friday upheld a Granada Hills man’s first-degree murder conviction for the killing of a medical marijuana distributor whose body was found in a Long Beach alley more than three years ago.

A three-justice panel from California’s Second District Court of Appeal cited “overwhelming evidence” of Marcel Maurice Mackabee’s guilt, including his admission that he was with Phillip Williamson the day of the murder. The appellate court justices also noted that the Toyota 4Runner that Mackabee was driving was in the immediate vicinity of the alley minutes before Williamson’s body was found on March 24, 2011

Williamson, who picked up marijuana from Northern California and sold it in large quantities to medical marijuana dispensaries, was shot once in the back of the head and dumped in an alley in the 1500 block of Pine Avenue. He died a day later.
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B.. but peaceful unicorns and puppies fa la la la!
 
WillyPete said:
Agreed.

Also, once it becomes generally available everywhere the prices should flatten out, though the sin taxes will compensate somewhat.

This should especially be the case with marijuana, as it is pretty simple to grow, compared to alcohol and tobacco, so there will be a lot of amateur competition.

People still steal and illegally import cigarettes, so it's going to happen, but I don't think it's considered a serious problem.

And now that legal growers and distributors can call the cops when they are robbed, that removes one of the reasons they have been targeted in the past.
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Growing your own and or selling it without a license is illegal in Washington. Also, the whole idea of illegally importing, selling, or growing a plant is nonsensical.
 
Top Cat said:
$50,000 in marijuana stolen from Seattle dispensary




Well that didn't take long...
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But isn't street dealing dead now that MJ has been legalized?

I thought that is what we were all told. Legalize it and the cartels will go away.
 
Henrin said:
Growing your own and or selling it without a license is illegal in Washington.
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I'm not especially familiar with the new law there. I was speaking to how amateur supply will compete with the professional products, once it is decriminalized at a national level. In theory, we'll eventually be able to go to a farmer's market and buy stuff just about as good as any boutique shop.


Also, the whole idea of illegally importing, selling, or growing a plant is nonsensical.
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Do you mean that making it illegal is nonsense, or that act of growing\selling is nonsense?
 
Summerwind said:
Unfortunately theft of marijuana happens a lot, legal or otherwise, at least with it being a legal dispensary, there were no guns or violence involved as there would've been in an illegal marijuana theft.
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If you witnessed the event and know that no guns or violence was involved, I hope you hop on the phone and provide your eyewitness account.
 
Mason66 said:
But isn't street dealing dead now that MJ has been legalized?

I thought that is what we were all told. Legalize it and the cartels will go away.
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Once it is legal everywhere, that will largely be the case. Not a lot of money in bootleg liquor anymore, compared to the 1920s.

Until then, the regional variations will probably increase street dealing, in some areas.
 
WillyPete said:
I'm not especially familiar with the new law there. I was speaking to how amateur supply will compete with the professional products, once it is decriminalized at a national level. In theory, we'll eventually be able to go to a farmer's market and buy stuff just about as good as any boutique shop.
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If you are restricted to selling or growing something only under the approval of the state there isn't an amateur market for it.
Do you mean that making it illegal is nonsense, or that act of growing\selling is nonsense?
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I mean the act of making it illegal is nonsense. Sorry, I forgot a word. :D Making a plant illegal to grow, import, or sell is nonsensical since it comes from the earth and is nothing but part of the world in which we live. If we can't even accept all plants as part of life we might as well just give up on life as we are obviously not fit for it.
 
Mason66 said:
But isn't street dealing dead now that MJ has been legalized?

I thought that is what we were all told. Legalize it and the cartels will go away.
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You DO know that some people steal cars...right?

Yours is such a goofy response. A crime happened. Crime happens.
 
Mason66 said:
But isn't street dealing dead now that MJ has been legalized?

I thought that is what we were all told. Legalize it and the cartels will go away.
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The price of MJ in Washington is something like $25 a gram. Do the math. It's not competitively priced.

You also have to be over 21, which is another lol worthy **** up.

How many people here started smoking pot when they were teenagers? Damn, that sure is a lot of hands.
 
VanceMack said:
You DO know that some people steal cars...right?

Yours is such a goofy response. A crime happened. Crime happens.
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Yes it is goofy, sure it is.

One of the big selling points to legalizing pot is that crime and the cartels will go away.

That is the goofy part, that people believe that.
 
Henrin said:
The price of MJ in Washington is something like $25 a gram. Do the math. It's not competitively priced.

You also have to be over 21, which is another lol worthy **** up.

How many people here started smoking pot when they were teenagers? Damn, that sure is a lot of hands.
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I understand the situation, however the big selling point is that there will be no more crime and the cartels will disappear when pot is legalized.

That of course will not happen but it is the first thing people say about legalization anyway.
 
Mason66 said:
But isn't street dealing dead now that MJ has been legalized?

I thought that is what we were all told. Legalize it and the cartels will go away.
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What an ignorant assumption. First, it's only been a few weeks in Washington and a few months in Colorado. Do you think drug cartels will wilt in a moment? Also, drug dealers sell drugs other than marijuana. Then there is the fact that underage people will still have to buy from a dealer, but now that it's legal for adults, the police can concentrate on these illegal dealers.
 
Mason66 said:
Yes it is goofy, sure it is.

One of the big selling points to legalizing pot is that crime and the cartels will go away.

That is the goofy part, that people believe that.
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No one is stupid enough to believe crime will ever go away. With legalization it will definitely be reduced. However...as it has only been legal for a short period of time it is highly unlikely that it will end crime instantly.

But extend your lack of logic. Jewelry sales are legal, yet people still steal and sell jewelry. Cars are legal to purchase, yet people still steal cars and resell them, and yes...marijuana is valuable so someone will be inclined to steal it. Just like they rob legal pharmacies today and steal pain pills.
 
Texmex said:
What an ignorant assumption. First, it's only been a few weeks in Washington and a few months in Colorado. Do you think drug cartels will wilt in a moment? Also, drug dealers sell drugs other than marijuana. Then there is the fact that underage people will still have to buy from a dealer, but now that it's legal for adults, the police can concentrate on these illegal dealers.
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That is my point, genius. The cartel will never go away, but that dopesn't stop the legalization crowd from using that as the #1 reason why pot should be legalized.
 
VanceMack said:
No one is stupid enough to believe crime will ever go away. With legalization it will definitely be reduced. However...as it has only been legal for a short period of time it is highly unlikely that it will end crime instantly.

But extend your lack of logic. Jewelry sales are legal, yet people still steal and sell jewelry. Cars are legal to purchase, yet people still steal cars and resell them, and yes...marijuana is valuable so someone will be inclined to steal it. Just like they rob legal pharmacies today and steal pain pills.
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I am sorry if you missed my point.
 
Texmex said:
What an ignorant assumption. First, it's only been a few weeks in Washington and a few months in Colorado. Do you think drug cartels will wilt in a moment? Also, drug dealers sell drugs other than marijuana. Then there is the fact that underage people will still have to buy from a dealer, but now that it's legal for adults, the police can concentrate on these illegal dealers.
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I have already provided the price of MJ in Washington per gram and there is expected to only be something like 25 stores in the entire state of Washington. Furthermore, as it stands, Washington is not giving out any more licenses at the moment. So not only is the price too high, but chances are you won't find a store near you.

Cartels won't wilt at all because the government has no intention of allowing people to buy what they want free of government intervention. Guess what? Cigarettes have a black market too and do you know why? The government.
 
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Henrin said:
If you are restricted to selling or growing something only under the approval of the state there isn't an amateur market for it.
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I'm looking forward to a time when it's generally available nationwide, more in the vein of Colorado than the peculiar hodge podge of rules Washington has come up with. It used to see a very long ways away, but things seem to be accelerating.


I mean the act of making it illegal is nonsense. Sorry, I forgot a word. :D Making a plant illegal to grow, import, or sell is nonsensical since it comes from the earth and is nothing but part of the world in which we live. If we can't even accept all plants as part of life we might as well just give up on life as we are obviously not fit for it.
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No argument here, though a person could say the same of tobacco, opium, and cocaine, which have much more potential to do harm.

I tend to believe prohibition is counter-productive in those cases too, but marijuana is an extreme example of what government should not be blowing resources on.
 
Mason66 said:
I am sorry if you missed my point.
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I get your point. You are opposed to legalization of marijuana and think this somehow proves your position. It does not. It just makes you look silly. Stop it.
 
CanadaJohn said:
If you witnessed the event and know that no guns or violence was involved, I hope you hop on the phone and provide your eyewitness account.
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Since there's no report of gunfire or victim of violence, I'm pretty sure I can determine that if guns were present they offered no violence upon a victim.

Surely you can see that. Come on, John, we were starting to get along and then you do this foolishness?
 
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