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    Re: Satanists Cite Hobby Lobby In Campaign For Religious Exemption To Abortion Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Once again, I did not say the court applied Rational Basis Review. You are drawing that out of your imagination.
    I'm not drawing anything from anyplace. No need to reiterate--once again--that you did not say the Hobby Lobby Court applied rational basis review. Anyone can read what I just wrote and see that I acknowledged that, very clearly. And yet you did claim some "level of scrutiny" applied in Hobby Lobby. Please explain to us, then, just what that level of scrutiny was, and why the Court applied it.

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    Re: Satanists Cite Hobby Lobby In Campaign For Religious Exemption To Abortion Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    They will just employ the "no true Scottsman" fallacy. Five Catholics control the court. If the Catholic church can get away with the Inquisition, the silent consent of the Holocaust, and pedophile priest coverups, this is nothing.
    Oh its a Catholic conspiracy is it??? Go on.

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    Re: Satanists Cite Hobby Lobby In Campaign For Religious Exemption To Abortion Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    We can measure harm. We can measure pleasure and pain. We can measure better or worse outcomes. Those are not hypothetical constructs and those are the practical meanings of good and evil. Anything else is just armchair philosophy and we can certainly do better than that. This idea that the big ideas are somehow closed to science is nonsense. There's nothing mysterious about kindness, love, or hate. All of them can be measured and understood. Any effect they have on our lives and our existence can be measured. There is nothing closed off to the scientific method. Or at least no evidence of anything.

    Cannot is an assertion. Please provide evidence to back up this assertion.
    I made the assertion about good and evil. You are now bringing up other hypothetical constructs. Better, worse, pleasure, and pain, are also subjective. If you believe these are measurable scientifically, please tell me what units of measure for each are. Polling people's opinions doesn't mean you are actually measuring these constructs. It means that you are finding out what a group's general opinion on something is. It is not objective. There is no control measurement to use as a baseline.

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    Re: Satanists Cite Hobby Lobby In Campaign For Religious Exemption To Abortion Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    If you want a real riot-a-minute, check out the news on their website.

    They held a Satanic same-sex marriage ceremony at the gravesite of Fred Plelps' mother about a year ago.

    You can't make this garbage up!
    Seems fitting as Phelps is clearly an offspring of satan.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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