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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Why the hell do you think we should allow any Americans to live without those things? This is the wealthiest country in the world. We SHOULD be able to take those things for granted. What relevance do third world countries have on economic disparity here? If there was a significant number of people living in the kind of poverty you're describing, this wouldn't be nearly as wealthy or powerful a country as it is.



    The 1970s called and want their jobs policies back. "Supposed" and "are" don't resemble each other much. The careers that minimum wage workers are supposed to move in to have dried up, and experience in minimum wage jobs doesn't lead to anything else anymore. The gap between wage work and career work has widened. Why is it so hard for you to understand that?
    I would say there are a significant number of people in America living in conditions like that.

    I graduated in 2001 and worked at walmart during college for minimum wage. I was able to get by. I lived off of ramen noodles and rice but that was purely by choice so I could go out and drink on weekends. It wasn't nearly as difficult as people make it out to be. As for the whole providing for a family thing, don't have kids if you can't afford them. This is the biggest problem, we have people spitting out babies with no idea how they are going to provide for them. I have a coworkers with 4-5 kids and all of them complain nonstop about how much of a struggle it is to make bills. Its like I always told them they are struggling due to the decisions they made, instead of blaming others for thier mistakes start taking responsibility for your own actions. I find it hard to have pity on people who bring misfortune on themselves especially when due to a backwards tax code and government I have to pay for it.

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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    They did a stunt where they were going to live for a month on what a family of four could get for food stamps, something like $132-138 a month and they complained the whole time about how hungry they were and how horrible it was and nobody could ever be happy doing that.

    I do it every month! Our typical grocery bills for a family of 4 is right in line with that.
    Assuming 3 meals per day, that works out to 38 cents per meal. What are you feeding your kids?

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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What she isnt taking into factor is 1.)Housing 2.)Bills 3.)Transportation 4.)Medical costs, etc etc
    5. The fact that minimum wage earners tend to be the second or third incomes in a household.
    6. An endless array of government programs providing support to those who are not.

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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Jan Schakowsky, a Congressional member, is beginning her "Live the Wage" menu where she pretends she makes minimum wage and can only eat as much as she can afford. Here is her first menu:

    RE https://twitter.com/janschakowsky/st...78179966078976

    Looks like a normal menu to me. Three meals a day with snacks. No one's starving with that menu.
    Where is she getting that, in the Congressional Dining Room?
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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    5. The fact that minimum wage earners tend to be the second or third incomes in a household.
    6. An endless array of government programs providing support to those who are not.
    I've seen no evidence that either one of those is true
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    5. The fact that minimum wage earners tend to be the second or third incomes in a household.
    6. An endless array of government programs providing support to those who are not.
    You know the whole thing is bull****. She's a poser.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I've seen no evidence that either one of those is true
    6. 63 percent of workers who earn less than $9.50 per hour (well over the minimum wage of $7.25) are the second or third earner in their family.

    7. As of 2012 there were 126 separate, overlapping programs designed to fight poverty.


    But methinks you will still see no evidence. You cannot make someone see what they do not wish to.

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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Young people working for minimum wage can pool their resources by sharing apartments and doing other such things to increase their buying power until they work their way to a better position. It's done all the time.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Your first link doesn't support your first claim. It says that about 55% are under 25 and that 43% come from households earning more than 50K. IOW, 43% are kids who are in a family that earns more than 50k. The other 57%, the majority, are not.

    2) The fact that there are a lot of public assistance programs does not mean that they are all available to those who earn minimum wage
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What's your ambition?
    At a minimum, it's getting off the porch and going to work. I'm fixin' to pull out the driveway, soon as I post this.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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