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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    It also neglects to mention how few minimum wage workers are actually supporting households.

    Your average minimum wage worker is using that money to supplement what their parents or spouse are making.
    About half of all MW workers are 25 or older.

    As far as supplementing the income of their parents or spouse, i'd like to see where you got that info from. it sounds like you made it up
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    Re: #LivetheWage

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    Libbos are opposed to ambition. Ambition would destroy their agenda.

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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    5) beer, 6) cigarettes, 7) HBO, 8) couple or three nights out at the club per week
    Awhhh yes. The "welfare queen" argument made by the great Reagan.


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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Libbos are opposed to ambition. Ambition would destroy their agenda.
    What's your ambition?

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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Jan Schakowsky, a Congressional member, is beginning her "Live the Wage" menu where she pretends she makes minimum wage and can only eat as much as she can afford. Here is her first menu:

    RE https://twitter.com/janschakowsky/st...78179966078976

    Looks like a normal menu to me. Three meals a day with snacks. No one's starving with that menu.
    This is a poorly conceived stunt. She should try "living the wage" not just by taking food into account, but let's talk about rent, transportation, bills/utilities, clothes, supplies and living necessities etc. Not to mention all the costs associated with childcare if you have a kid. I make more than minimum wage but these are the choices that people on the low end of the wage scale have to make and balance every single day. It's not just about food.
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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    This is a poorly conceived stunt. She should try "living the wage" not just by taking food into account, but let's talk about rent, transportation, bills/utilities, clothes, supplies and living necessities etc. Not to mention all the costs associated with childcare if you have a kid. I make more than minimum wage but these are the choices that people on the low end of the wage scale have to make and balance every single day. It's not just about food.
    Throw in just one health emergency or car breakdown and bam, you're toast. There's also the awesome bank overdraft fee circle cluster**** that every poor person is intimately familiar with.

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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Poverty in America is different than poverty in the third world. Things like clean, potable running water, electricity, substantial housing, telephone, television and an ample supply of food are taken for granted.
    Why the hell do you think we should allow any Americans to live without those things? This is the wealthiest country in the world. We SHOULD be able to take those things for granted. What relevance do third world countries have on economic disparity here? If there was a significant number of people living in the kind of poverty you're describing, this wouldn't be nearly as wealthy or powerful a country as it is.

    Other stuff that this charade neglects to include is that minimum wage jobs are supposed to be temporary. If you consider an entry level position to be a career or a ceiling you've sold yourself short. These are supposed to be jobs for people just entering the work force who have other sources of household income.
    The 1970s called and want their jobs policies back. "Supposed" and "are" don't resemble each other much. The careers that minimum wage workers are supposed to move in to have dried up, and experience in minimum wage jobs doesn't lead to anything else anymore. The gap between wage work and career work has widened. Why is it so hard for you to understand that?
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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What she isnt taking into factor is 1.)Housing 2.)Bills 3.)Transportation 4.)Medical costs, etc etc
    You forgot partying, cable TV, hot clothes, cell phone with unlimited everything.... ya know, "essentials"
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You forgot partying, cable TV, hot clothes, cell phone with unlimited everything.... ya know, "essentials"
    stereotype much?
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    Re: #LivetheWage

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Why the hell do you think we should allow any Americans to live without those things? This is the wealthiest country in the world. We SHOULD be able to take those things for granted. What relevance do third world countries have on economic disparity here? If there was a significant number of people living in the kind of poverty you're describing, this wouldn't be nearly as wealthy or powerful a country as it is.



    The 1970s called and want their jobs policies back. "Supposed" and "are" don't resemble each other much. The careers that minimum wage workers are supposed to move in to have dried up, and experience in minimum wage jobs doesn't lead to anything else anymore. The gap between wage work and career work has widened. Why is it so hard for you to understand that?
    You shouldnt allow it. You and all the rest of the very caring liberals should pay for it out of your pocket. Because you care.

    And maybe the answers are found in building and growing an economy with sustainable middle income jobs and not trying to turn minimum wage jobs into careers. Next thing you know you will be petitioning for college degrees for fry cooks.

    'allow'. Geeeeeeeezus. Its no wonder this country is so ****ed.

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