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80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched [W:700]

Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing his assailant

Black Dog said:
And yet you have no valid response as to the motivation? Occams razor.
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Valid response to your invalid questions?
Occam's razor?
Your comments are silly.
Everything you said, is that which is invalid.



Motivation? You are apparently speaking to rational motivation, which is different than being caught up in the moment. (Which really isn't rational thought.)

So let me readdress what you think I didn't.

Black Dog said:
So now getting "caught up in the moment" is not getting revenge?
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No it isn't.
Being caught up in the moment really does not involve such a deliberate thought of vengeance, let alone what is traditionally thought of as vengeance.
Being caught up in the moment in this case was clearly him thinking he was defending himself against violent criminals.
Thinking you are defending yourself is not an act of vengeance, but acting in self-defense.


Black Dog said:
So getting "caught up in the moment" was not to send a message? Come on then what was the motivation for getting "caught up in the moment" a desire to kill someone running away and shooting them in the back?
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Get real. He was not sending a message or trying to send a message.
You are just ridiculously attributing bs to him that just isn't there.


And since you dodged and ignored your being wrong earlier. Lets address that as well.
Follow the quotes this time so you understand what was being spoken to, as it was your failure to follow that lead you to make untrue statements.

Which was in-general standards that each group may be held to. Not shooting someone in the back as you absurdly wanted it to be.

Excon said:
Black Dog said:
Excon said:
Simon W. Moon said:
It is entirely reasonable for civilians to be held to a higher standard that cops.
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It shouldn't be when using deadly force. It should be more relaxed for civilians as they are not trained as an Officer is.
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Absolute nonsense. People should not be shooting people in the back who are running away.
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What is absolute nonsense, is you replying while not understanding what is being spoken to.
Do try to keep up.
And at least bother to note what my position is regarding the shooting.
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Excon said:
Valid response to your invalid questions?
Occam's razor?
Your comments are silly.
Everything you said, is that which is invalid.

Motivation? You are apparently speaking to rational motivation, which is different than being caught up in the moment. (Which really isn't rational thought.)

So let me readdress what you think I didn't.

No it isn't.
Being caught up in the moment really does not involve such a deliberate thought of vengeance, let alone what is traditionally thought of as vengeance.
Being caught up in the moment in this case was clearly him thinking he was defending himself against violent criminals.
Thinking you are defending yourself is not an act of vengeance, but acting in self-defense.

Get real. He was not sending a message or trying to send a message.
You are just ridiculously attributing bs to him that just isn't there.

And since you dodged and ignored your being wrong earlier. Lets address that as well.
Follow the quotes this time so you understand what was being spoken to, as it was your failure to follow that lead you to make untrue statements.

Which was in-general standards that each group may be held to. Not shooting someone in the back as you absurdly wanted it to be.
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#1 I was not wrong. You are welcome to your incorrect opinion though.

Motivation is motivation rational or not. He wanted to send a message and get revenge, period. I don't care if it was rational or not.

So you still got nothing but your opinion.

He shoot someone who had no weapon in the back fleeing. There is no justification, none. There is no logical reason other than revenge and/or sending a message. Again Occam's Razor.
 
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Black Dog said:
No. And it still has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to what this person did. It is NOT A FORCIBLE FELONY. Again, you might want to look that up.
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Assault and battery is not a forcible felony? Add burglary, and elder abuse and you see no issue. Just let them walk away. Wow.
 
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Black Dog said:
#1 I was not wrong.
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Yes you were.
You are welcome to your incorrect opinion though.

Black Dog said:
Motivation is motivation rational or not. He wanted to send a message and get revenge, period. I don't care if it was rational or not.
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Wrong again and being dishonest to boot.
Figures.

Black Dog said:
He shoot someone who had no weapon in the back fleeing. There is no justification, none. There is no logical reason other than revenge and/or sending a message. Again Occam's Razor.
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I see you still haven't bothered to look up my position.
You fail again.
And no he wasn't sending any message. That is nothing more than delusions from your own thought processes.

He believed he was acting in self-defense, and, being caught-up in the moment, continued to operate under such belief.
That would be Occam's razor as applied to the known information.
Not your delusional thoughts.
 
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TheNextEra said:
Well it's a good thing your "opinion" means jack ****. I love how you say you "judge with perspective" and then spout off your rhetoric about me when you don't know me, my views, or my personal life.

You just proved my point about how you judge, thank you. So go find another soapbox since you got knocked off this one.
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I didnt judge you, I offered an opinion based on how you present yourself. Look how bitter and angry you are. Relax. Breathe a bit. Have another cookie.
 
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VanceMack said:
I didnt judge you, I offered an opinion based on how you present yourself. Look how bitter and angry you are. Relax. Breathe a bit.
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Oh so you just post inaccurate comments that are lies and hide behind the opinion label. Sad really that you're upset over getting knocked off your soapbox. Hope your head doesn't hurt being knocked down that far.
 
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TheNextEra said:
Oh so you just post inaccurate comments that are lies and hide behind the opinion label. Sad really that you're upset over getting knocked off your soapbox. Hope your head doesn't hurt being knocked down that far.
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Really...dood...relax. Calm down. Its sad. I stated very clearly it was just an 'opinion'. I'm sorry for you that you are taking this all so personally.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Assault and battery is not a forcible felony? Add burglary, and elder abuse and you see no issue. Just let them walk away. Wow.
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Yes he was not judge jury and executioner. None of those are forcible felony's, not one. Wow.
 
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VanceMack said:
Really...dood...relax. Calm down. Its sad. I stated very clearly it was just an 'opinion'. I'm sorry for you that you are taking this all so personally.
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Doesn't make it any less a personal attack by putting "my opinion" at the end of it. Clearly you have lost your soapbox argument and I have proven myself right about you that you have to resort to posting comments that are lies.
 
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Excon said:
Yes you were.
You are welcome to your incorrect opinion though.

Wrong again and being dishonest to boot.
Figures.

I see you still haven't bothered to look up my position.
You fail again.
And no he wasn't sending any message. That is nothing more than delusions from your own thought processes.

He believed he was acting in self-defense, and, being caught-up in the moment, continued to operate under such belief.
That would be Occam's razor as applied to the known information.
Not your delusional thoughts.
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Well you have 0 credibility so I really don't put much stock in anything you say or your convoluted opinion. I have addressed all your nonsense and again you are welcome to your wrong opinion.
 
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Black Dog said:
Yes he was not judge jury and executioner. None of those are forcible felony's, not one. Wow.
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Define forcible felony. If I slam you down in an attempt to neutralize you to steal your belongings, that is a forcible felony.
 
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TheNextEra said:
Doesn't make it any less a personal attack by putting "my opinion" at the end of it. Clearly you have lost your soapbox argument and I have proven myself right about you that you have to resort to posting comments that are lies.
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:lamo Dood...I think you are way too invested. You are seeing insult where none was intended. I merely AGREE with you that unlike the 80 year old guy that defended himself (perhaps agressively, but defended nonetheless), you would have responded radically differently. But look how cute you are when you are angry.
 
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VanceMack said:
:lamo Dood...I think you are way too invested. You are seeing insult where none was intended. I merely AGREE with you that unlike the 80 year old guy that defended himself (perhaps agressively, but defended nonetheless), you would have responded radically differently. But look how cute you are when you are angry.
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Nope I'm finding hilarious that people get to see you backpeddle and lie in your posts. Showing your dishonest and cowardly posts and knocking you off your soapbox made my day, thank you.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Define forcible felony. If I slam you down in an attempt to neutralize you to steal your belongings, that is a forcible felony.
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No it's not. Those are felony's in which the police can use deadly force. Since the thieves were running away and unarmed even the police could not just shoot them dead.
 
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TheNextEra said:
Nope I'm finding hilarious that people get to see you backpeddle and lie in your posts. Showing your dishonest and cowardly posts and knocking you off your soapbox made my day, thank you.
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:lamo Backpeddle and lie? Pshaw. Never. I offered an opinion of your response. It is based on your presentation of character or lack thereof. Nothing more, nothing less. That opinion has never changed and in fact you are merely reinforcing it. I'm sorry it has you so angry and you are taking this all so personally.
 
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VanceMack said:
:lamo Backpeddle and lie? Pshaw. Never. I offered an opinion of your response. It is based on your presentation of character or lack thereof. Nothing more, nothing less. That opinion has never changed and in fact you are merely reinforcing it. I'm sorry it has you so angry and you are taking this all so personally.
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Another person attack just now, you are on a roll here. Really sad you have to post more dishonest comments just because you got knocked off your soapbox. Anyways, I'm done proving you wrong so I will allow you to have the last word.
 
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TheNextEra said:
Another person attack just now, you are on a roll here. Really sad you have to post more dishonest comments just because you got knocked off your soapbox. Anyways, I'm done proving you wrong so I will allow you to have the last word.
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Im sorry you feel personally attacked and you haz yer feelerz hert.
 
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VanceMack said:
You obviously have never read the NUMEROUS times I have done just that...but thats OK...believe it...dont...I couldnt give half a **** about your opinion.

ALL I have said is judge him with perspective. You dont have the integrity and decency to do even that. You actually operate under the ridiculous pretense that if you were in that situation and not under the safety and shelter of a keyboard and monitor you would have handled it differently. And to be fair...I think you would have handled it differently as well. I think you are one of those guys that would end up in a fetal position with wet britches waiting for your turn to die hoping someone else would come along and save you, even if your life (or the life of others you care about) were at risk.

But again...thats just an opinion.
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in contrast, it appears you are the type who would have no reservations about shooting a fleeing pregnant woman in the back. twice. to send a message

just an opinion, mind you
 
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justabubba said:
in contrast, it appears you are the type who would have no reservations about shooting a fleeing pregnant woman in the back. twice. to send a message

just an opinion, mind you
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And not lose a wink of sleep.
 
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justabubba said:
in contrast, it appears you are the type who would have no reservations about shooting a fleeing pregnant woman in the back. twice. to send a message

just an opinion, mind you
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Of course. And an opinion which deserves all the credence due someone of your stature.

:lamo

WAit! Edit!: I was supposed to get indignant and upset! So...in that vein...


"Thats BULL**** Bubba. I'd NEVER shoot someone in the back with a .22lr. .45...maybe. 40 cal...sure...but who uses a .22lr for home defense????"

:lamo
 
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Black Dog said:
Well you have 0 credibility so I really don't put much stock in anything you say or your convoluted opinion. I have addressed all your nonsense and again you are welcome to your wrong opinion.
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:doh
You are the one with no credibility here. You haven't adequately addressed anything.
All you did was spout convoluted nonsense that you made up in your own head. That makes you wrong.
You showed that you didn't even understand what was being said in comments addressed to another, and you think you have credibility?
Such nonsense.

You are wrong and have been wrong as shown.
 
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Excon said:
:doh
You are the one with no credibility here. You haven't adequately addressed anything.
All you did was spout convoluted nonsense that you made up in your own head. That makes you wrong.
You showed that you didn't even understand what was being said in comments addressed to another, and you think you have credibility?
Such nonsense.

You are wrong and have been wrong as shown.
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The only thing you have shown is the abuility to have the wrong opinion. Nothing new here... Yawn.
 
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Black Dog said:
The only thing you have shown is the abuility to have the wrong opinion. Nothing new here... Yawn.
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Honestly, since there is no charge yet on the old man. Opinion is all anyone has.
 
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VanceMack said:
Of course. And an opinion which deserves all the credence due someone of your stature.

:lamo

WAit! Edit!: I was supposed to get indignant and upset! So...in that vein...


"Thats BULL**** Bubba. I'd NEVER shoot someone in the back with a .22lr. .45...maybe. 40 cal...sure...but who uses a .22lr for home defense????"

:lamo
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stay classy. make your mom proud. wear that willingness to shoot a pregnant woman in the back. twice, while she is running away from you. wear it like a badge
 
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