80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched [W:700]

Fishstyx · Jul 31, 2014

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justabubba said:
not so sure
shot a fleeing woman
TWICE, in the BACK
who he then had reason to believe was pregnant
as a message

seems like a compelling argument in favor of murder 2

I'm not disputing the evidence, there is likely enough to to indict. Again, I have serious doubts a jury would convict this guy and that is something a prosecutor takes into account when deciding whether to go forward.

CRUE CAB · Jul 31, 2014

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molten_dragon said:
No you shouldn't. Self defense laws exist for the purpose of self defense, not revenge. If there is no imminent threat to you, deadly force is not justified.

So, if I walk up and clean your clock. OR that of your 80 year old parent or grand parent. You will just let me walk away.

CRUE CAB · Jul 31, 2014

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reinoe said:
Agreed

There are fleeing felon laws that probably apply.

Misterveritis · Jul 31, 2014

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Anthony60 said:
Is this what it has come to, in Obama's America? 80 year olds slaying the young in the streets just because they are in need?

Is this what we have come to in Obama's America where those of undisclosed lean describe criminal actions as acceptable? I suppose it makes sense. The president is the chief law breaker. Why wouldn't his minions follow his lead? Is that why you follow his lead?

CRUE CAB · Jul 31, 2014

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justabubba said:
not so sure
shot a fleeing woman
TWICE, in the BACK
who he then had reason to believe was pregnant
as a message

seems like a compelling argument in favor of murder 2

Take the emotion out of it. He shot a fleeing felon that with the aid of another beat him, broke bones, attempted to steal from and very easily could have killed a man of his age.
They showed a clear lack of regard for him. They acted with extreme prejudice. They are thought to have stolen from him previously.
He did what anyone would have done that thought they were fighting for their life and had just had enough.
I commend him.

Excon · Jul 31, 2014

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Fishstyx said:
I'm not disputing the evidence, there is likely enough to to indict. Again, I have serious doubts a jury would convict this guy and that is something a prosecutor takes into account when deciding whether to go forward.

That would indicate that the law needs to be changed.
Until it is, they should charge anyways and let the people decide.

Crosscheck · Jul 31, 2014

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CRUE CAB said:
So, if I walk up and clean your clock. OR that of your 80 year old parent or grand parent. You will just let me walk away.

Until laws are changed you got to watch your p's and q's in these situations.

Yes, if you beat up my 80yr old mother I am going to beat the loving crap out of you and accept whatever legal consequence I face.

If it weren't for some of these laws I would have been in a lot more fights with asshole neighbors and drivers...............But I am always aware I don't want to end up paying for someone's injuries.

If you can't do the time , don't do the crime.

CRUE CAB · Jul 31, 2014

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Crosscheck said:
Until laws are changed you got to watch your p's and q's in these situations.

Yes, if you beat up my 80yr old mother I am going to beat the loving crap out of you and accept whatever legal consequence I face.

If it weren't for some of these laws I would have been in a lot more fights with asshole neighbors and drivers...............But I am always aware I don't want to end up paying for someone's injuries.

If you can't do the time , don't do the crime.

But the old man committed no crime.

rcart76 · Jul 31, 2014

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ocean515 said:
The coroner confirmed she was not pregnant. In addition to being a thief willing to attack others, she was a liar. Shame the media hasn't corrected the story about this former mouth breather, who deserved to be removed from the planet long ago.

Regardless if she lied about being pregnant. At that time, the guy and many of his supporters didn't give 2 s**** if she was pregnant. Again this is what I have a issue with.

CRUE CAB · Jul 31, 2014

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rcart76 said:
Regardless if she lied about being pregnant. At that time, the guy and many of his supporters didn't give 2 s**** if she was pregnant. Again this is what I have a issue with.

Fine, but YOU were not the one that just had his ass beat.

Excon · Jul 31, 2014

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rcart76 said:
Regardless if she lied about being pregnant. At that time, the guy and many of his supporters didn't give 2 s**** if she was pregnant. Again this is what I have a issue with.

There was no credible evidence that she was.
Criminals are known to lie.

rcart76 · Jul 31, 2014

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CRUE CAB said:
Fine, but YOU were not the one that just had his ass beat.

I'm sure everyone once in their life took a a** whooping including myself. Bu t I have never thirst to kill that person. Especially if they are in the position of begging for their life. And even at the point of shooting them execution style, I can't see myself finding "great joy" in doing it. I come from Los Angeles and I known people who shoot and killed burglars. They didn't regret doing it, but at the same time, it bother them that they just took a person's life.

Anthony60 · Jul 31, 2014

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CRUE CAB said:
Need? So her and her boy friend NEEDED to beat and batter an old man? Hahhahha

It's not their fault, they are frustrated because the republicans have stopped Obama from creating jobs and transforming America into a utopia.

rcart76 · Jul 31, 2014

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Excon said:
There was no credible evidence that she was.
Criminals are known to lie.

You totally miss my point :doh

Excon · Jul 31, 2014

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rcart76 said:
You totally miss my point :doh

Not at all.
There was no reason to believe she was pregnant.

Nor would it matter if she was, as she placed the fetus in harms way.

Texmex · Jul 31, 2014

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CRUE CAB said:
But the old man committed no crime.

He committed manslaughter or murder. I know bad-asses like you :roll: hate to miss an opportunity to kill someone, but if I were on the jury, this old man would be convicted of at least voluntary manslaughter.

I realize it's easy for drug-store cowboys to fantasize about being a tough guy, but you need to realize it's mostly BS.

CRUE CAB · Jul 31, 2014

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rcart76 said:
I'm sure everyone once in their life took a a** whooping including myself. Bu t I have never thirst to kill that person. Especially if they are in the position of begging for their life. And even at the point of shooting them execution style, I can't see myself finding "great joy" in doing it. I come from Los Angeles and I known people who shoot and killed burglars. They didn't regret doing it, but at the same time, it bother them that they just took a person's life.

We are not talking about two dudes in a street fight. Please, keep it in context of what actually happened.

rcart76 · Jul 31, 2014

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Excon said:
Not at all.
There was no reason to believe she was pregnant.

Nor would it matter if she was, as she placed the fetus in harms way.

Oh so now we are declaring that a fetus is not relevant. I will keep this in mind on the next abortion thread.

rcart76 · Jul 31, 2014

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CRUE CAB said:
We are not talking about two dudes in a street fight. Please, keep it in context of what actually happened.

You are right. It is worse. We are talking about a woman whom was not confirm if she was pregnant or not begging for her life !!!!!!

Excon · Jul 31, 2014

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rcart76 said:
Oh so now we are declaring that a fetus is not relevant. I will keep this in mind on the next abortion thread.

Do what you want, but this has nothing to do with abortion.
So it will look a little silly relating the two if you bring it up.

rcart76 said:
Oh so now we are declaring that a fetus is not relevant.

:doh
It isn't relevant at all. He was responding to a home invasion, being beaten and being robbed.
Just how do you think it matters that the criminal was pregnant?

Excon · Jul 31, 2014

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rcart76 said:
We are talking about a woman whom was not confirm if she was pregnant or not begging for her life !!!!!!

No, you are talking about a criminal who is not believable. Of course they are going to lie and plead.

ocean515 · Jul 31, 2014

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rcart76 said:
Regardless if she lied about being pregnant. At that time, the guy and many of his supporters didn't give 2 s**** if she was pregnant. Again this is what I have a issue with.

Perhaps her willingness to kill lowered the sympathy level in people.

rcart76 · Jul 31, 2014

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Excon said:
Do what you want, but this has nothing to do with abortion.
So it will look a little silly relating the two if you bring it up.

:doh
It isn't relevant at all. He was responding to a home invasion, being beaten and being robbed.
Just how do you think it matters that the criminal was pregnant?

Because base on the argument from the right. The fetus is a living being, therefore if the woman told the man that she was pregnant(at the time it was not confirmed) and he doesn't care and shoot her anyway. The guy shooting the lady is like sacrificing the hostage to kill the criminal.

Excon · Jul 31, 2014

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rcart76 said:
Because base on the argument from the right. The fetus is a living being, therefore if the woman told the man that she was pregnant(at the time it was not confirmed) and he doesn't care and shoot her anyway. The guy shooting the lady is like sacrificing the hostage to kill the criminal.

Bs!
You are talking about a criminal who is not believable. Of course they are going to lie and plead.
There was no reason to care about her or anything she said at all.

rcart76 · Jul 31, 2014

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ocean515 said:
Perhaps her willingness to kill lowered the sympathy level in people.

And you bring up a interesting point. If those robbing were cold blooded like the old man. That guy would be here today taking "great joy" in killing the lady. So where exactly was her willingness to kill?