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80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched [W:700]

Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

This thread is starting out like the Zimmerman thread. Kinda civil at the beginning but by page thirty it got where it took on a life of its own.
Good thing we are not at page thirty yet. Maybe you should change your setting if you are.
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

Good thing we are not at page thirty yet. Maybe you should change your setting if you are.

When i said page thirty i was referring to the Zimmerman thread.
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

You seem to be misunderstanding what is being said.

No, it was not a reason for him not to shoot.


It may have been a reason for you not to shoot, but not for him. Do you now understand what was said?
Which is kind of obvious. Had it been a reason for him not to shoot, he wouldn't have shot.
are you now acknowledging that he did not shoot in self defense



You do not know how that occurred.
based on his statements seen on the videos, he explained that she begged him not to fire at her because she claimed to be pregnant
are you of the impression he fabricated that story and that his statement cannot be found valid



Maybe what happened hasn't been accurately relayed.
what do you believe has been misrepresented, and why do you hold that view

As for what you mention here? That is nothing more than stupid criminals being stupid.
my cousin - as a teen - robbed the convenience store in which he worked. i have been exposed to such stupid criminals, up close and personal
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

are you now acknowledging that he did not shoot in self defense




based on his statements seen on the videos, he explained that she begged him not to fire at her because she claimed to be pregnant
are you of the impression he fabricated that story and that his statement cannot be found valid




what do you believe has been misrepresented, and why do you hold that view


my cousin - as a teen - robbed the convenience store in which he worked. i have been exposed to such stupid criminals, up close and personal

I’m beginning to think the ole coot is scamming the state into looking after him for the remaining years of his life. Think about it. What’s the going rate for nursing home care in Calyfornia?$10K a month wouldn’t surprise me. If he IS a sociopath…???Which he, in his response/blabbing suggest.:(
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

are you now acknowledging that he did not shoot in self defense
You really are not paying attention to what has been said, are you?

As specifically relayed to you earlier.
Still ignoring what was said, huh?

What exactly did you not understand about the following statement?
What the guy did was illegal, but understandable.

Pay attention.


based on his statements seen on the videos, he explained that she begged him not to fire at her because she claimed to be pregnant
are you of the impression he fabricated that story and that his statement cannot be found valid
Yeah, you clearly are not paying attention to what is said.
I do wonder where she found time to do this pleading all the while running down an ally with her back to him?
Apparently there is information we do not have.
What is it exactly that you did not understand about the above?


Maybe what happened hasn't been accurately relayed.
what do you believe has been misrepresented, and why do you hold that view
Not being accurately relayed is not the same as misrepresented. So don't put words into my mouth.



my cousin - as a teen - robbed the convenience store in which he worked. i have been exposed to such stupid criminals, up close and personal
Irrelevant.
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

The guy is going to go to prison. Shooting an unarmed person running in the back and then gloating about it is not going to win any points with a Jury. There was no threat and there was no risk to property or life at that point and time.

Wonder when all the pro-lifers are going to come in here complaining about it....oh wait....don't see any.

EDIT: Change that, have seen some so ignore the no pro-lifers comment I made, my apologies.
If you can edit to add an "edit" then you can edit to remove the original comment.
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

Here is the thing.
Humans get caught up in the emotional excitement of traumatic situations.
It doesn't matter their age.

Most folks understand the following.
A person walks in on their spouse cheating.
That person gets so caught up in emotion that they go get a gun and start firing away even when their spouse is fleeing.​

Most folks understand the above, yet they fail to understand being emotionally caught up under other circumstances, such as this case.
They both are similar in that they are traumatic experiences where the individual gets caught up in the emotions of the moment.

I would suggest that folks start understanding and considering being caught up in the emotions of the moment when judging such.



What the guy did was illegal, but understandable.
I hope the jury walks him, or that he receives the lightest sentence possible.
I doubt anything harsher serves any actual purpose.




As for the following that was slipped in this topic.

Negligent homicide?
iLOL :lamo
He deliberately shot Trayvon in self-defense. That is not negligence.
And you doing so would fly in the face of the evidence. So all you would have done is idiotically hung the jury.


:doh
Not for Zimmerman, as he was acting in self defense.
It's like you forgot all the evidence presented in Court.



You seem to have forgotten, Zimmerman didn't confront Trayvon at all.
Trayvon confronted him. Has to return to an area he was not in to do it. Either that, or he laid in wait.

So no, simply following to keep eyes on a suspicious person until the police arrive, is not "arguably initiating a confrontation".
Trayvon returning to, or coming out of hiding, once Zimmerman stopped keeping eyes on him was the initiation of the confrontation.


Zimmerman did not initiate the confrontation, and the police never told him to back off.

bull **** he perused the boy and shot him
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

bull **** he perused the boy and shot him
Yes, your reply is bs.
Keeping eyes on the suspicious person until the police arrive is not "pursuing" him.
And Trayvon was shot in self defense after he attacked Zimmerman.
Learn the actual evidence.
 
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Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

Wrong. There is no law that says you cannot attack during self defense.

If you're chasing someone else, it's no longer self-defense.
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

Just think if the woman were have been black.

Obama would have already commented and Jesse and Al would have already booked reservations at some five star resort in L.A.

MSNBC/NBC would have already confirmed that the man was a racist and convicted him for a hate crime.

lies and bull ****
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

Yes, your reply is bs.
Keeping eyes on the suspicious person until the police arrive is not "pursuing" him.
And Trayvon was shot in self defense after he attacked Zimmerman.

perusing and stopping some one then shooting them is not the same as shooting some one who attacked you in your home for no reason

if anything Trayvon might have been defending himself form a dangerous and very suspicious inndidividul who then shot him
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

You really are not paying attention to what has been said, are you?

As specifically relayed to you earlier.

Pay attention.


Yeah, you clearly are not paying attention to what is said.
What is it exactly that you did not understand about the above?


Not being accurately relayed is not the same as misrepresented. So don't put words into my mouth.



Irrelevant.
just answer my questions

do you now acknowledge he did not shoot in self defense

do you have any doubt that the woman was shot while retreating from the conflict

share with us the semantic distinction between the incident being misrepresented and inaccurately relayed as it relates to this discussion

you made the correlation by and between criminals and stupidity. i expressed my familial association with such a stupid criminal to convey i have been exposed to such
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

lies and bull ****

Now you don't know that do you.

A few weeks ago a CHP officer was seen beating up on a 51-50 who happened to be a black woman and everyone on the left was yelling racist.

If it were have been a white woman, it would have never made the news.
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

just answer my questions

do you now acknowledge he did not shoot in self defense

do you have any doubt that the woman was shot while retreating from the conflict

share with us the semantic distinction between the incident being misrepresented and inaccurately relayed as it relates to this discussion

you made the correlation by and between criminals and stupidity. i expressed my familial association with such a stupid criminal to convey i have been exposed to such
Pay attention. There is no need to answer your questions based on what has already been said. That is your fault for not understanding what you read. Not mine.
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

If you're chasing someone else, it's no longer self-defense.

Counterattack is SOP after stopping an attack.

After being on the defense, go on the offense.

Don't let the enemy retreat and regroup and attack again.
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

Just think if the woman were have been black.

Obama would have already commented and Jesse and Al would have already booked reservations at some five star resort in L.A.

MSNBC/NBC would have already confirmed that the man was a racist and convicted him for a hate crime.

yes yes I know its bull**** your just blowing off steam at some pepaole you don't like
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

perusing and stopping some one then shooting them is not the same as shooting some one who attacked you in your home for no reason

if anything Trayvon might have been defending himself form a dangerous and very suspicious inndidividul who then shot him
You clearly do not know the evidence.
Zimmerman did not stop Trayvon. Trayvon is the one who confronted and attacked Zimmerman. He either came back from where he was to do so, or he laid in wait.
So learn the evidence.
And keeping eyes on a person for and until the police arrive, is not pursuing them.
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

Pay attention. There is no need to answer your questions based on what has already been said. That is your fault for not understanding what you read. Not mine.

you are avoiding the questions
yes, i am painting you in a corner and you want to avoid my doing so
but by dodging the questions you are demonstrating you are unable to sustain your position that this was a legitimate shooting
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

You clearly do not know the evidence.
Zimmerman did not stop Trayvon. Trayvon is the one who confronted and attacked Zimmerman. He either came back from where he was to do so, or he laid in wait.
So learn the evidence.
And keeping eyes on a person for and until the police arrive, is not pursuing them.

doesn't seem to be the case even acceding to the mans own defense

http://gzdocs.com/documents/opening_graphics/timeline.jpg
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

you are avoiding the questions
yes, i am painting you in a corner and you want to avoid my doing so
but by dodging the questions you are demonstrating you are unable to sustain your position that this was a legitimate shooting
iLOL
You are the one who has painted himself in a corner by not understanding that which was already provided. :doh

:lamo

Again,
What exactly did you not understand about the following statement?
What the guy did was illegal, but understandable.
 
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Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

You clearly do not understand what you read.

no that's a perfectly nice hat
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

no that's a perfectly nice hat
And Zimmerman walked off into the sunset, cleared of the false charges.

iLOL
:lamo
 
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Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

Counterattack is SOP after stopping an attack.

After being on the defense, go on the offense.
Don't let the enemy retreat and regroup and attack again.




When this case goes to trial, we'll see what the judge and jury think.

Me, I don't see chasing someone and killing them as self defense.

Whether that lady was pregnant or not I don't believe that she needed to die to ensure that mans safety.

IOW: He could have let her live, but he chose to kill her.
 
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