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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I did...true...but I at least have the decency to try to put myself in his situation to gain perspective. You...you cant be bothered and have admitted as much.
    Sorry but you don't have a clue what my thought process was on this matter, so again go try to sell someone else on your soapbox. noone is buying it. And no, when you have judged politicians and other people you have not "written" your thought processes here either. More soapbox rhetoric from you that will be ignored.

    I love your backpeddling from "how dare you judge him" to "Well I do judge but.....<insert backpeddling here>." Hope you didn't hit your head getting knocked off your soapbox there.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    From your link...

    Those accused of violating California elder abuse laws are typically either family members of ... or caregivers for ... the alleged elderly victim.
    Do I need to explain what "typically" means.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Sorry but you don't have a clue what my thought process was on this matter, so again go try to sell someone else on your soapbox. noone is buying it. And no, when you have judged politicians and other people you have not "written" your thought processes here either. More soapbox rhetoric from you that will be ignored.

    I love your backpeddling from "how dare you judge him" to "Well I do judge but.....<insert backpeddling here>." Hope you didn't hit your head getting knocked off your soapbox there.
    You obviously have never read the NUMEROUS times I have done just that...but thats OK...believe it...dont...I couldnt give half a **** about your opinion.

    ALL I have said is judge him with perspective. You dont have the integrity and decency to do even that. You actually operate under the ridiculous pretense that if you were in that situation and not under the safety and shelter of a keyboard and monitor you would have handled it differently. And to be fair...I think you would have handled it differently as well. I think you are one of those guys that would end up in a fetal position with wet britches waiting for your turn to die hoping someone else would come along and save you, even if your life (or the life of others you care about) were at risk.

    But again...thats just an opinion.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Do I need to explain what "typically" means.
    No. And it still has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to what this person did. It is NOT A FORCIBLE FELONY. Again, you might want to look that up.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You obviously have never read the NUMEROUS times I have done just that...but thats OK...believe it...dont...I couldnt give half a **** about your opinion.

    ALL I have said is judge him with perspective. You dont have the integrity and decency to do even that. You actually operate under the ridiculous pretense that if you were in that situation and not under the safety and shelter of a keyboard and monitor you would have handled it differently. And to be fair...I think you would have handled it differently as well. I think you are one of those guys that would end up in a fetal position with wet britches waiting for your turn to die hoping someone else would come along and save you, even if your life (or the life of others you care about) were at risk.

    But again...thats just an opinion.
    Well it's a good thing your "opinion" means jack ****. I love how you say you "judge with perspective" and then spout off your rhetoric about me when you don't know me, my views, or my personal life.

    You just proved my point about how you judge, thank you. So go find another soapbox since you got knocked off this one.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing his assailant

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    And yet you have no valid response as to the motivation? Occams razor.
    Valid response to your invalid questions?
    Occam's razor?
    Your comments are silly.
    Everything you said, is that which is invalid.



    Motivation? You are apparently speaking to rational motivation, which is different than being caught up in the moment. (Which really isn't rational thought.)

    So let me readdress what you think I didn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    So now getting "caught up in the moment" is not getting revenge?
    No it isn't.
    Being caught up in the moment really does not involve such a deliberate thought of vengeance, let alone what is traditionally thought of as vengeance.
    Being caught up in the moment in this case was clearly him thinking he was defending himself against violent criminals.
    Thinking you are defending yourself is not an act of vengeance, but acting in self-defense.


    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    So getting "caught up in the moment" was not to send a message? Come on then what was the motivation for getting "caught up in the moment" a desire to kill someone running away and shooting them in the back?
    Get real. He was not sending a message or trying to send a message.
    You are just ridiculously attributing bs to him that just isn't there.


    And since you dodged and ignored your being wrong earlier. Lets address that as well.
    Follow the quotes this time so you understand what was being spoken to, as it was your failure to follow that lead you to make untrue statements.

    Which was in-general standards that each group may be held to. Not shooting someone in the back as you absurdly wanted it to be.

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    It is entirely reasonable for civilians to be held to a higher standard that cops.
    It shouldn't be when using deadly force. It should be more relaxed for civilians as they are not trained as an Officer is.
    Absolute nonsense. People should not be shooting people in the back who are running away.
    What is absolute nonsense, is you replying while not understanding what is being spoken to.
    Do try to keep up.
    And at least bother to note what my position is regarding the shooting.
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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing his assailant

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Valid response to your invalid questions?
    Occam's razor?
    Your comments are silly.
    Everything you said, is that which is invalid.

    Motivation? You are apparently speaking to rational motivation, which is different than being caught up in the moment. (Which really isn't rational thought.)

    So let me readdress what you think I didn't.

    No it isn't.
    Being caught up in the moment really does not involve such a deliberate thought of vengeance, let alone what is traditionally thought of as vengeance.
    Being caught up in the moment in this case was clearly him thinking he was defending himself against violent criminals.
    Thinking you are defending yourself is not an act of vengeance, but acting in self-defense.

    Get real. He was not sending a message or trying to send a message.
    You are just ridiculously attributing bs to him that just isn't there.

    And since you dodged and ignored your being wrong earlier. Lets address that as well.
    Follow the quotes this time so you understand what was being spoken to, as it was your failure to follow that lead you to make untrue statements.

    Which was in-general standards that each group may be held to. Not shooting someone in the back as you absurdly wanted it to be.
    #1 I was not wrong. You are welcome to your incorrect opinion though.

    Motivation is motivation rational or not. He wanted to send a message and get revenge, period. I don't care if it was rational or not.

    So you still got nothing but your opinion.

    He shoot someone who had no weapon in the back fleeing. There is no justification, none. There is no logical reason other than revenge and/or sending a message. Again Occam's Razor.
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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    No. And it still has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to what this person did. It is NOT A FORCIBLE FELONY. Again, you might want to look that up.
    Assault and battery is not a forcible felony? Add burglary, and elder abuse and you see no issue. Just let them walk away. Wow.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing his assailant

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    #1 I was not wrong.
    Yes you were.
    You are welcome to your incorrect opinion though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    Motivation is motivation rational or not. He wanted to send a message and get revenge, period. I don't care if it was rational or not.
    Wrong again and being dishonest to boot.
    Figures.

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    He shoot someone who had no weapon in the back fleeing. There is no justification, none. There is no logical reason other than revenge and/or sending a message. Again Occam's Razor.
    I see you still haven't bothered to look up my position.
    You fail again.
    And no he wasn't sending any message. That is nothing more than delusions from your own thought processes.

    He believed he was acting in self-defense, and, being caught-up in the moment, continued to operate under such belief.
    That would be Occam's razor as applied to the known information.
    Not your delusional thoughts.
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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Well it's a good thing your "opinion" means jack ****. I love how you say you "judge with perspective" and then spout off your rhetoric about me when you don't know me, my views, or my personal life.

    You just proved my point about how you judge, thank you. So go find another soapbox since you got knocked off this one.
    I didnt judge you, I offered an opinion based on how you present yourself. Look how bitter and angry you are. Relax. Breathe a bit. Have another cookie.
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