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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    What risk is there when someone is pleading for their life? It was a straight up execution.
    Turn the situation around.... you in similar circumstances.

    Two people have proceeded to the drum solo akin to the opening of " 2001 ", a slight break allows you to grab a ball bat and start swinging ... would you hear the statement? would you heed the "statement" or might it be a distraction to allow them to again gain t he upper hand ?

    Do you know what you would do when thinking you are defending your life?

    ???

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    How does making the woman responsible for her unborn child make me pro-choice? And how does pro life or pro choice even fit in here?
    She was pregnant and knew it, she committed crimes while pregnant. Sounds like she make all the choices.

    Was THE CHILD innocent or not????
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    So, in essence, a woman should be 100% responsible for whatever happens to the child inside her womb and that 'the child' has no say. I'm guessing you're pro-choice.
    1. YES as a parent, she, above all others, bears complete responsibility for that child's health and safety..

    2. Of course you're guessing..... different topic and thread.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Of course not. The kid doesn't deserve to die. The guy didn't deserve to be robbed.

    Frankly, when you break into people's homes AND try to steal their belongings AND physically attack them, you can expect to be shot. You arguably deserve to be shot.

    She was clearly not very concerned with the well-being of her kid when she chose to commit this heinous act of aggression, an act that will often provoke a violent self-defense response from the victim. It is possible that full responsibility for the death of the kid is on the his or her parents.

    Possible, as I want to see all the facts in this case before saying anything definitive.
    Maybe she was a complete bad-assed dick head or maybe she was really hungry? It's humane nature to something do crappy things in order to survive. We don't know why she and her boyfriend did what they did. Sure, it was wrong. But circumstances should be weighed.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Maybe she was a complete bad-assed dick head or maybe she was really hungry? It's humane nature to something do crappy things in order to survive. We don't know why she and her boyfriend did what they did. Sure, it was wrong. But circumstances should be weighed.
    I'm sorry, but I'm not going to presume this lady was Jean Valjean. The benefit of the doubt was lost when they broke in, went for a safe, and attacked the owner.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Was THE CHILD innocent or not????
    Sadly yes, but mom made it collateral damage.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Which makes this act -- including killing an innocent child -- revolting.
    NOW its about killing an innocent unborn child???

    I suspect his post act words are more out of adrenaline and bravado then an accurate description of his actual actions. I dont know of too many people here that would come home, walk in on a robbery, get jumped and then beat down, and have the time, presence, and wherewithal to say "hmmmm...I think I will calmly retrieve my weapon and kill someone". Cops dont operate at that ops tempo. Seldom do soldiers operate at that ops tempo. I can give him the benefit of the doubt...sure. He is robogeriatric and everything goes into slow motion for him and he really did everything exactly how he said it and why. IF that is the case, then Im not sure what California law is but in my mind he should be tried.

    Not for nothing...but the home robbers...turns out they had a long history of this behavior including violent attacks.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    1. YES as a parent, she, above all others, bears complete responsibility for that child's health and safety..
    She made a poor choice, but did she actually think she was going to be shot in cold blood? Perhaps she was doing was out of desperation.

    2. Of course you're guessing..... different topic and thread.
    Not really. The argument for pro-lifers is that the child has no say in the matter. The same argument can be easily made here.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    .............................. Sure, it was wrong. But circumstances should be weighed.
    Correct. it does not seem to be the case in much of this thread though.... ?????? does it ??

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Frankly, it would be hypocritical for any California DA to pretend his lousy state gives a **** about the dead baby.

    And this is California, I'm sure he'll be arrested and I don't doubt a California jury would convict. As of right now, that sounds like the wrong outcome, even if it is the likely outcome IMO.

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