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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    I haven't checked today, but last I heard the DA's office hadn't decided whether to indict Greer. I wouldn't be surprised if they did not. That raises the question of how much discretion the DA has. I don't like the idea of making decisions whether to enforce homicide laws depend on how sympathetic the killer is.

    I found a very interesting article about a series of self-defense cases the Supreme Court decided in the 1890's, all involving a federal district court judge named Isaac Parker. Parker, whose court was in Fort Smith, Arkansas, became notorious as a "hanging judge" for urging juries to be unsympathetic to claims of self-defense by defendants who had killed criminal attackers. The Court kept reversing his decisions, getting more impatient with him each time. And yet much later, Chief Justice Rehnquist wrote an article sympathetic to Parker's complaints that the justices were letting murderers go free on technicalities.

    THE SELF-DEFENSE CASES: HOW THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT CONFRONTED A HANGING JUDGE IN THE NINETEENTH CENTURY AND TAUGHT SOME LESSONS FOR JURISPRUDENCE IN THE TWENTY-FIRST

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    OK, I applaud Mr Greer. Its time people stood up to the scum and the criminals that prey on old people.
    It may be possible to stand up to scum without risking time in prison for murder.
    If it is possible to do that, we should probably encourage the standing up to scum without the risk of incarceration.

    Afaict, Mr. Greer was all good shooting at them inside his house.
    He was all good until they fled his house.

    After that Greer, started ****ing up.
    The interview with the news crew is just the cherry on top of that ****-up sundae.
    I may be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    It may be possible to stand up to scum without risking time in prison for murder.
    If it is possible to do that, we should probably encourage the standing up to scum without the risk of incarceration.

    Afaict, Mr. Greer was all good shooting at them inside his house.
    He was all good until they fled his house.

    After that Greer, started ****ing up.
    The interview with the news crew is just the cherry on top of that ****-up sundae.
    Still glad he did it and doubt they will file charges.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    “The lady, she couldn’t run as fast as the man, so I shot her in the back twice,” Greer explained. “She’s dead, but he got away.” He added, “She says, ‘Don’t shoot me, I’m pregnant! I’m going to have a baby!’ And I shot her anyway.”
    This is the chilling part here. I am all for protecting your home. Even if it is using deadly force, but anyone (right or left) that takes joy in killing anyone needs help. The woman was begging for her life as well as her unborn child's life and he shot her anyway. What kind of cold blooded person can do that?

    And by the way, to all of you who applaud this man for killing this lady and her unborn child. I really hope that you are not Christians.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    The more dead criminals there are, the more pleased I am.
    I really hope you change your attitude before judgement day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    I really hope you change your attitude before judgement day.
    I wont, don't worry about it.

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    I'm starting to lean towards the DA will likely not prosecute. Would be tough to get a jury to convict an 80 year old man for shooting someone that just broke into his house and beat the crap out of him. Not saying its an impossible case but would be pretty tough even with a mountain of evidence.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    This is the chilling part here. I am all for protecting your home. Even if it is using deadly force, but anyone (right or left) that takes joy in killing anyone needs help. The woman was begging for her life as well as her unborn child's life and he shot her anyway. What kind of cold blooded person can do that?

    And by the way, to all of you who applaud this man for killing this lady and her unborn child. I really hope that you are not Christians.
    The coroner confirmed she was not pregnant. In addition to being a thief willing to attack others, she was a liar. Shame the media hasn't corrected the story about this former mouth breather, who deserved to be removed from the planet long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    I'm starting to lean towards the DA will likely not prosecute. Would be tough to get a jury to convict an 80 year old man for shooting someone that just broke into his house and beat the crap out of him. Not saying its an impossible case but would be pretty tough even with a mountain of evidence.
    not so sure
    shot a fleeing woman
    TWICE, in the BACK
    who he then had reason to believe was pregnant
    as a message

    seems like a compelling argument in favor of murder 2
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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I wouldn't want to try to defend this man if the D.A.'s office charges him for killing the woman. From what's been reported, several things would tend to work against him.

    The two intruders, even though they roughed him up enough to break his collarbone, were both unarmed.

    They let the homeowner get up and go to another room, where he got the gun. That tends to undercut the claim that he had good reason to fear he was in danger of death or great physical harm from them. He might just have locked himself away from them, or left the house, or phoned for help, and he could have pocketed the gun in the meantime, just in case they tried to attack him further.

    He came back with the gun and shot at the two, even though by then they seemed to have turned away from him to search for things to steal.

    He shot the woman in an alley, even though she had clearly submitted to him by pleading for him not to shoot.

    He ignored her plea and shot her twice in the back.

    He then dragged the woman back onto his property. That suggests he knew he had not shot her to defend himself but was trying to make it look more like he had.

    If he is charged, the prosecution might claim he did not kill the woman to protect himself or anyone else from the threat of death or great bodily harm at her hands. They might argue that the real reason was that he knew, or thought he did, that the two had broken in on him before, and that was trying to make sure--by killing them both--that they could never do it again. But if that were reason enough, it would be all right to kill anyone who had committed a crime against you to keep him from ever doing it again, even is he had never put you at risk of death or serious injury.
    Wait ??? An 80 yr old man w/ a broken collar bone dragged someone onto his property ?

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