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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    This thread is starting out like the Zimmerman thread. Kinda civil at the beginning but by page thirty it got where it took on a life of its own.
    Good thing we are not at page thirty yet. Maybe you should change your setting if you are.
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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Good thing we are not at page thirty yet. Maybe you should change your setting if you are.
    When i said page thirty i was referring to the Zimmerman thread.
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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You seem to be misunderstanding what is being said.

    No, it was not a reason for him not to shoot.


    It may have been a reason for you not to shoot, but not for him. Do you now understand what was said?
    Which is kind of obvious. Had it been a reason for him not to shoot, he wouldn't have shot.
    are you now acknowledging that he did not shoot in self defense



    You do not know how that occurred.
    based on his statements seen on the videos, he explained that she begged him not to fire at her because she claimed to be pregnant
    are you of the impression he fabricated that story and that his statement cannot be found valid



    Maybe what happened hasn't been accurately relayed.
    what do you believe has been misrepresented, and why do you hold that view

    As for what you mention here? That is nothing more than stupid criminals being stupid.
    my cousin - as a teen - robbed the convenience store in which he worked. i have been exposed to such stupid criminals, up close and personal
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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    are you now acknowledging that he did not shoot in self defense




    based on his statements seen on the videos, he explained that she begged him not to fire at her because she claimed to be pregnant
    are you of the impression he fabricated that story and that his statement cannot be found valid




    what do you believe has been misrepresented, and why do you hold that view


    my cousin - as a teen - robbed the convenience store in which he worked. i have been exposed to such stupid criminals, up close and personal
    I’m beginning to think the ole coot is scamming the state into looking after him for the remaining years of his life. Think about it. What’s the going rate for nursing home care in Calyfornia?$10K a month wouldn’t surprise me. If he IS a sociopath…???Which he, in his response/blabbing suggest.
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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    are you now acknowledging that he did not shoot in self defense
    You really are not paying attention to what has been said, are you?

    As specifically relayed to you earlier.
    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Still ignoring what was said, huh?

    What exactly did you not understand about the following statement?
    What the guy did was illegal, but understandable.

    Pay attention.


    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    based on his statements seen on the videos, he explained that she begged him not to fire at her because she claimed to be pregnant
    are you of the impression he fabricated that story and that his statement cannot be found valid
    Yeah, you clearly are not paying attention to what is said.
    I do wonder where she found time to do this pleading all the while running down an ally with her back to him?
    Apparently there is information we do not have.
    What is it exactly that you did not understand about the above?


    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    Maybe what happened hasn't been accurately relayed.
    what do you believe has been misrepresented, and why do you hold that view
    Not being accurately relayed is not the same as misrepresented. So don't put words into my mouth.



    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    my cousin - as a teen - robbed the convenience store in which he worked. i have been exposed to such stupid criminals, up close and personal
    Irrelevant.
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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The guy is going to go to prison. Shooting an unarmed person running in the back and then gloating about it is not going to win any points with a Jury. There was no threat and there was no risk to property or life at that point and time.

    Wonder when all the pro-lifers are going to come in here complaining about it....oh wait....don't see any.

    EDIT: Change that, have seen some so ignore the no pro-lifers comment I made, my apologies.
    If you can edit to add an "edit" then you can edit to remove the original comment.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Here is the thing.
    Humans get caught up in the emotional excitement of traumatic situations.
    It doesn't matter their age.

    Most folks understand the following.
    A person walks in on their spouse cheating.
    That person gets so caught up in emotion that they go get a gun and start firing away even when their spouse is fleeing.

    Most folks understand the above, yet they fail to understand being emotionally caught up under other circumstances, such as this case.
    They both are similar in that they are traumatic experiences where the individual gets caught up in the emotions of the moment.

    I would suggest that folks start understanding and considering being caught up in the emotions of the moment when judging such.



    What the guy did was illegal, but understandable.
    I hope the jury walks him, or that he receives the lightest sentence possible.
    I doubt anything harsher serves any actual purpose.




    As for the following that was slipped in this topic.

    Negligent homicide?
    iLOL
    He deliberately shot Trayvon in self-defense. That is not negligence.
    And you doing so would fly in the face of the evidence. So all you would have done is idiotically hung the jury.



    Not for Zimmerman, as he was acting in self defense.
    It's like you forgot all the evidence presented in Court.



    You seem to have forgotten, Zimmerman didn't confront Trayvon at all.
    Trayvon confronted him. Has to return to an area he was not in to do it. Either that, or he laid in wait.

    So no, simply following to keep eyes on a suspicious person until the police arrive, is not "arguably initiating a confrontation".
    Trayvon returning to, or coming out of hiding, once Zimmerman stopped keeping eyes on him was the initiation of the confrontation.


    Zimmerman did not initiate the confrontation, and the police never told him to back off.
    bull **** he perused the boy and shot him

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    bull **** he perused the boy and shot him
    Yes, your reply is bs.
    Keeping eyes on the suspicious person until the police arrive is not "pursuing" him.
    And Trayvon was shot in self defense after he attacked Zimmerman.
    Learn the actual evidence.
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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Wrong. There is no law that says you cannot attack during self defense.
    If you're chasing someone else, it's no longer self-defense.
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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Just think if the woman were have been black.

    Obama would have already commented and Jesse and Al would have already booked reservations at some five star resort in L.A.

    MSNBC/NBC would have already confirmed that the man was a racist and convicted him for a hate crime.
    lies and bull ****

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