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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    That gave me a migraine.

    You forgot to mention that the "person being acted upon" knew she was pregnant and that her death would result in it's demise. Pro-lifers here seemed perfect okay with that, which surprised me.
    You're surprised easily then. Personally, I see nothing surprising about people that believe that the born and the unborn have human rights approving of the mans actions.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Nope. The people in this thread.
    OH! Gotcha...I see. Well...the answer remains constant. People like you have been around forever.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Yes, we know that now. But when we didn't, the pro-lifers didn't seem to think what the shooter did was wrong. I find it fascinating.
    I am pro life and I would convict the shooter of Manslaughter.

    In addition, if his apparent lack of remorse and suggestions that the killing was an execution are accurate, I would advocate that he receive the maximum allowable sentence for manslaughter.

    In the end, howwever, the victim was not innocent and the circumstances do not support a charge of Second Degree Murder.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    I am pro life and I would convict the shooter of Manslaughter.

    In addition, if his apparent lack of remorse and suggestions that the killing was an execution are accurate, I would advocate that he receive the maximum allowable sentence for manslaughter.

    In the end, howwever, the victim was not innocent and the circumstances do not support a charge of Second Degree Murder.
    The victim was innocent of any actions deserving execution.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    I am pro life and I would convict the shooter of Manslaughter.

    In addition, if his apparent lack of remorse and suggestions that the killing was an execution are accurate, I would advocate that he receive the maximum allowable sentence for manslaughter.

    In the end, howwever, the victim was not innocent and the circumstances do not support a charge of Second Degree Murder.
    Same here. I am pro-life, anti-death penalty. I think, regardless of his age, he should serve time.

    Also, I think the fact that the woman lied about being pregnant is irrelevant. She told him she was - he should have gone on that assumption until it was proved otherwise. Personally, I think the guy was an animal. She was running away. If he wanted to prevent her coming back to do it again, he should have fired a few shots into the air to let them know he had a gun (although that isn't working out so well for Marissa Alexander). Either way, if she was running away, and he shot her in the back, he's a reprehensible bastard who deserves anything that is coming to him.
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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Where the hell did you get sharia in that? DO you have Muslims on the brain?
    The similarities were obvious to me--the hand thing and theft, you know.

    Except that, iirc, sharia requires some sort of a judge or other jurist and testifying witnesses etc.
    So, I guess I see your point.

    You're really just advocating that we mete out corporal punishment to our fellow citizens on an ad hoc basis to help fight crime.
    This is actually much different.
    My bad.

    Why is it that we're not each already authorized to do as you suggest?
    Is it because we have become a nation of pussies?

    If we had all 300 million of us dishing out justice like this, crime would be gone in a couple of weeks, yes?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    There is every reason to believe that the woman was lying when she yelled to the man she was robbing, that she was pregnant. While she unfortunately was pregnant, that is not the issue here, which is under California law, did the man have a right to shoot at anyone while they were fleeing.
    No, she was NOT pregnant. Stop repeating that misinformation.

    Evenso, I will repeat, if the 80yo was still able to grab a gun and chase people into an alley and then shoot and drag a body back to his property, it's murder. He wasn't "beaten" as he claims, and was instead insulted and vengeful, not self-defensive or in immediate danger.
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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The victim was innocent of any actions deserving execution.
    And for that reason, the shooter needs to be criminally charged.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Here's your ammo

    CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE TITLE 8. OF CRIMES AGAINST THE PERSON CHAPTER 1. HOMICIDE SECTION 187-199
    http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=187-199

    What should Greer be charged with?
    What circumstances make the homicide justifiable?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Evenso, I will repeat, if the 80yo was still able to grab a gun and chase people into an alley and then shoot and drag a body back to his property, it's murder. He wasn't "beaten" as he claims, and was instead insulted and vengeful, not self-defensive or in immediate danger.
    Then you are not considering the effects that adrenalin has on a person regardless of age.
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