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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Madam, restrain yourself. I was correcting a completely false assertion in a way to make sure everyone saw the correction. I have already apologized to Maggie if it seemed that I was shouting... if you'd read a bit further you would have seen it.


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    I prefer to act out violently based on my own personal misconceptions of the threat level
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    I actually live pretty close to where this took place. I will say that in the last 15/20 yrs things have really changed around there. Never did you see bars on windows and doors but that's not the case anymore, alot of the older residents are scared at whats happening to their city. Alot of the crime that was exclusive to Detroit is spilling out into the surrounding cities. Now did this guy overestimated the threat he was facing? Maybe, but to condemn him before knowing the whole story is nothing short of irresponsible.

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Tell me then ...How does one prove a feeling?

    As I've already explained, a jury will determine whether the shooters alleged perception of threat was reasonable or not.


    Look up "reasonable man legal principle", it will explain how this works.

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I prefer to act out violently based on my own personal misconceptions of the threat level

    How droll.

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Who's going to protect my property if I don't? Or, are you suggesting that I'm supposed to just sit back and do nothing while some no-good sum-bitch robs me blind?
    Show your gun to Mr no-good sum-bitch and hold him at gun point until he can be taken into custody. Why wouldn't you consider that?
    What we find objectionable is the "shoot first and ask questions later" mentality and the laws that grant immunity to murder based on ones "feelings".

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It doesn't matter, if you're white and have a gun any actions are justifiable.


    Please refrain from making ridiculous statements that have no basis in fact. I know you're smarter than that.

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Show your gun to Mr no-good sum-bitch and hold him at gun point until he can be taken into custody. Why wouldn't you consider that?
    What we find objectionable is the "shoot first and ask questions later" mentality and the laws that grant immunity to murder based on ones "feelings".


    It is distressing to have to explain something repeatedly, only to have the facts ignored yet again.

    Very well.


    No one is granted immunity to murder charges based simply on their feelings.

    There must be a perception of imminent threat of a serious nature; this perception of threat must be judged to pass the "reasonable man test" by either the prosecutor, or if it goes to trial, a jury.

    Your statement is false and hyperbole.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Show your gun to Mr no-good sum-bitch and hold him at gun point until he can be taken into custody. Why wouldn't you consider that?
    What we find objectionable is the "shoot first and ask questions later" mentality and the laws that grant immunity to murder based on ones "feelings".
    And we object to your pleas to give home invaders a safe working environment.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Just make sure you actually ARE a victim before you kill someone. Is that REALLY too much to ask?
    Yes. My life and my family come first
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Just make sure you actually ARE a victim before you kill someone. Is that REALLY too much to ask?
    yes.. it is too much to ask.

    the idea of self defense is to NOT become a victim... not become a victim and then get your revenge after the fact

    I agree 100% with SYG and castle doctrine laws.... and i would defend myself even in their absence,
    but if you do not agree with them, simply do not defend yourself at home or outside of your home.... you are not required to defend yourself , your family,or your property.

    keep a clear conscience... be a victim.

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