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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Who the hell are you to define what constitutes a justifiable threat on someone elses property ?

    Instead of restricting the actions of the victims, criminals shuld understand that its highly likely that their actions might cost them their life.

    If they die over a lawn mower it was because of their foolosh choice to weigh their existence against the cost of a used lawn mower.
    I'm somebody who votes, and somebody who serves on juries.

    Kill somebody stealing your lawnmower and you'll go to jail. For a long time.

    It's not that difficult.

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I hadn't heard this before. This is substantially more than merely "being in the yard at night". The bolded portion might well have been evidence of attempted breaking and entering.
    If she's pleading for help due to being in an auto accident she very well might be knocking on the door rather heavily.

    Pleading for help.

    As you've stated, we need a lot more information before jumping to any conclusions.

    It is a great thing this case is going to trial and it proves our laws, in this case, are working rather well.

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    This train of thought is why many people are very staunchly in favor of stricter gun control.

    You make it harder for yourself when you spout this kind of nonsense.
    The people that push for more gun control have their priorities confused.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Homeowners should be allowed to defend themselves, however with firearm ownership comes responsibility and pulling that trigger "just because" is not responsible. Now SYG is different. For example Zimmerman was not on his property when he shot Martin. Nor was Reeves when he pulled the trigger in a Florida movie theatre. Trigger happy folks make news for doing stupid things makes it harder for responsible gun owners.

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Bull****. If you're on my property, without my leave, you risk a high velocity chunk of lead penetrating vital organs at my discretion (and aim).

    You pound on my door in the middle of the night, and sound incoherent, don't follow directions? See point one.

    You do stupid ****, you get removed, forcibly from the gene pool.
    Needlessly removing somebody from the gene pool can lead removing oneself from the gene pool as well via dying in prison- which I think is going to be the result in this case.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    The same could be said for Murder being illegal. Laws written on paper do not stop people from doing stupid ****, and a handful of people doing stupid **** does not justify restricting the peaceable majority.
    When stupid results in the deaths of innocent people we often opt to limit the freedoms of the peaceful majority. It's ridiculous to me that you consider these laws reasonable and are so willing to let others die to keep what you consider to be your rights, unrestricted. I am not talking about taking away anyone's guns but having laws in place that empower and enable people to kill innocent people so that you gun owners don't feel like their on a slippery slope to confiscation is ludicrous.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Who the hell are you to define what constitutes a justifiable threat on someone elses property ?

    Instead of restricting the actions of the victims, criminals shuld understand that its highly likely that their actions might cost them their life.

    If they die over a lawn mower it was because of their foolosh choice to weigh their existence against the cost of a used lawn mower.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I'm somebody who votes, and somebody who serves on juries.

    Kill somebody stealing your lawnmower and you'll go to jail. For a long time.

    It's not that difficult.
    Wrong, if someone has made the foolish decision to break into my garage to steal whatever and I catch him, he's toast and I'm NOT going to jail.

    Its not that difficult.

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The people that push for more gun control have their priorities confused.
    People who think killing a person over a leaf blower have their priorities confused.
    People who think shooting someone through a closed and locked front door have their priorities confused.

    People who spout off about how "they'll kill anyone who dares step foot on their property" not only have their priorities confused, but cause more harm than good when it comes to gun control.

    If you want people to back off regarding gun control, perhaps you should stop acting like you have a license to kill anyone, for any reason, regardless of circumstance.

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Who the hell are you to define what constitutes a justifiable threat on someone elses property ?

    Instead of restricting the actions of the victims, criminals shuld understand that its highly likely that their actions might cost them their life.

    If they die over a lawn mower it was because of their foolosh choice to weigh their existence against the cost of a used lawn mower.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    If she's pleading for help due to being in an auto accident she very well might be knocking on the door rather heavily.

    Pleading for help.

    As you've stated, we need a lot more information before jumping to any conclusions.

    It is a great thing this case is going to trial and it proves our laws, in this case, are working rather well.
    Thats not what you said earlier.

    You said he was guilty.

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