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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    The attempts to turn a self-defense law into some kind of racist issue is ludicrous and disingenuous.



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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    Maybe I misunderstand something. I recall that tragic story.

    Definitive Self Defense Laws have nothing to do with the color of skin... hmmm, I guess your final statement is puzzling to me.



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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Yes.
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    Oh, did not see that in the article. Yeah shooting someone though a door is not self defense in my opinion.

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    The actions of a handful of people with poor judgment do not justify needless constraints on the self-defense rights of hundreds of millions of citizens.

    If it were so, we would have gotten rid of automobiles long ago.


    ... and since charges have been filed, one can hardly say the system has failed to act to seek justice in this case.
    Those actions, even if it's just a handful, make those constraints anything BUT needless.

    That automobile analogy does not make sense.

    As for the charges, great. But those "charges" do little to comfort the loved ones of people who are killed because some cowboy can hold his **** together.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Yes.
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    Thank you. It took a few tries to get it right, since it's a selfie and not professionally done.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Those actions, even if it's just a handful, make those constraints anything BUT needless.

    That automobile analogy does not make sense.

    As for the charges, great. But those "charges" do little to comfort the loved ones of people who are killed because some cowboy can hold his **** together.

    The same could be said for Murder being illegal. Laws written on paper do not stop people from doing stupid ****, and a handful of people doing stupid **** does not justify restricting the peaceable majority.

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I think these laws are dangerous and empower people to act on irrational fears. Irrational fears that seem to consistently provoke them to shoot black people. IMHO, unless they consider that sector of our population dispensable these laws need to be changed in consideration of these real world outcomes.
    I agree with you. It's time some of these broaded castle laws were clarified and narrowed. It should be illegal to shoot someone just for being in one's front yard; or stealing one's car; we should have (and do have) the absolute right to shoot someone if we are physically threatened, but shooting a person requires answering for shooting a person.

    Just because you're standing on my porch yelling at me doesn't give you the right to shoot me dead because, "I was afraid she was going to force her way into my home." Shut and Lock The Damned Door.

    Years ago, I asked a cop if I could shoot someone on my front porch if he scared me. The cop answered something like, "Well, yeah. But you'd better drag him part-way in the house."

    Fingerprints on the door handle, broken glass, more than one person, all of that would enter in . . . but showing up at one's front door with a gun in one's hand shows a certain premeditation that makes me nervous. And if you had time to run and get it? You had time to Shut and Lock The Damned Door.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I agree with you. It's time some of these broaded castle laws were clarified and narrowed. It should be illegal to shoot someone just for being in one's front yard; or stealing one's car; we should have (and do have) the absolute right to shoot someone if we are physically threatened, but shooting a person requires answering for shooting a person.

    Just because you're standing on my porch yelling at me doesn't give you the right to shoot me dead because, "I was afraid she was going to force her way into my home." Shut The Damned Door.


    It is already illegal to shoot someone JUST for being in your front yard!

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    It is already illegal to shoot someone JUST for being in your front yard!
    Not if you think they're breaking into your shed it isn't. Or think they might break in your shed. Or think they're stealing a lawn ornament. Or probably a dozen other actions I could think of that supporters of broad Castle Laws could and do point out in discussions on this forum.

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
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    Oh my, I choose not to respond to that type of statement.

    I won't let that come between us I still like ya'

    We disagree .. just a feeble attempt at personal levity....

    Have a terrific day OD



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