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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Yes, it's soooo easy to this call make after the fact. People like you think think hindsight is wisdom and gives you some moral ground to chastise others.
    [url=http://www.popcenter.org/problems/home_invasionrobbery/]Center for Problem-Oriented Policing Problem Guides | Home Invasion Robbery[/rl]
    Here's an example of home invasions.

    Finally, Snopes says you need to realize life, is full of bad people.



    Please read the whole article.
    Yup ...you changed my mind...
    Anyone crazy enough to knock on my door for help, from now on, is gonna get blown away.
    Seek help from me with a knock on my front door and you are gonna get a face full of 00 buckshot right through the ****in' door. Snopes said that's what I should do...it must be right...
    Thank you so much MrVicchio ... You're my hero.
    /sarc

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Yup ...you changed my mind...
    Anyone crazy enough to knock on my door for help, for now on, is gonna get blown away.
    Seek help from me with a knock on my front door and you are gonna get a face full of 00 buckshot right through the ****in' door. Snopes said that's what I should do...it must be right...
    Thank you so much MrVicchio ... You're my hero.
    /sarc
    You can ask for help, I'll ask that you stop banging on my door. I'll dial 911. If you act in a strange manner, beat on my door, attempt to forcefully gain entry to my home, I'm going to take the measures I feel meet the moment. That includes shooting you. BTW, I wouldn't use buckshot. I have slugs for my 12 gauge for those "through the door, wall, car, body" moments.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You can ask for help, I'll ask that you stop banging on my door. I'll dial 911. If you act in a strange manner, beat on my door, attempt to forcefully gain entry to my home, I'm going to take the measures I feel meet the moment. That includes shooting you. BTW, I wouldn't use buckshot. I have slugs for my 12 gauge for those "through the door, wall, car, body" moments.
    Gee whiz MrVicchio ...How many people have you had to kill for knocking on your door?
    Tell us all how clever and macho you are and all the people you have blown away...
    We are dying to know...
    Thanks for the tip about slugs for my 12 gauge. I'm such a novice when it comes to blasting through door, wall and car bodies to kill people i don't know.
    Any more of those pearls of wisdom that will make me a better more efficient killer?
    /sarc

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    As long as it is a white guy shooting anyone black and un-armed, it is OK with you eh excon?
    You are un****ingbelievable.
    WTF?
    Is that what I said? No it wasn't, was it?

    I was pointing out your racism and what you ignored in your zeal to cast such aspersion.
    The racist shoe is clearly on your foot.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I stand corrected.
    Yes you do.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I did not realize that one could be charged with 2nd degree murder AND manslaughter in the same killing.
    Could he be found guilty on both charges?
    You had to go outside of the provided article to find that.
    Some States have to charge lesser included offenses. He can not be found guilty of both.
    He is over charged as I pointed out earlier.


    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I hope so.
    How idiotically absurd a thing to say. Especially since it is claimed as an accidental discharge.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I know what I read in the OP's article. He was charged with murder for shooting a woman in the head who, police believe, knocked on his door for help after a car accident. I know the defense attorney claimed he shot her because he was afraid. So, according to the prosecution, he shot her because she knocked on his door and was on his porch.

    Yeah, that's justifiable.

    Not in my world. Not with those facts. Unfortunately, we won't know any more facts for a while. And we won't know what really happened. And we don't know the outcome of the trial. *shrug*
    Damn Maggie. The story included other links to what is known.
    And no, the police do not know that. It is nothing more than speculation on their part and is not evidence. The only evidence of such, is that she was offered help by others earlier and refused it. You know - being offered is different that seeking it out - right?

    And no we know she wasn't knocking. She was pounding and creating such a racket that it woke him and caused him to believe someone was trying to break in.



    And finally, what I find most amazing... Your; "I know what I read in the OP's article."
    You have been involved in the discussion of this case previously, in at least two different threads and you supposedly do not know the reported evidence by now, and instead make statements in contradiction to that which is already known.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Exactly how is this young girl being shot in the head because she "pounded" on someones door in the middle of the night justice?
    The claim was that the gun accidentally discharged, that is not purposely shooting anybody.


    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    The problem is that as these laws are written in some states, they can and have been used to get people off the hook for shooting someone for no reason other than they were scared
    You seem to be forgetting that they were scarred by what is considered an actual threat at the time.
    No one should have to wait to see how far the threat is willing to go.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Gee whiz MrVicchio ...How many people have you had to kill for knocking on your door?
    Tell us all how clever and macho you are and all the people you have blown away...
    We are dying to know...
    Thanks for the tip about slugs for my 12 gauge. I'm such a novice when it comes to blasting through door, wall and car bodies to kill people i don't know.
    Any more of those pearls of wisdom that will make me a better more efficient killer?
    /sarc
    Tips? Please, you're a statistic waiting to happen. Someone robs you they'll have their way with you and your family and your possessions. And I feel bad for you, in your warped view of the world, that makes you the good guy.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    This was not a self defense situation.
    The girl was UNARMED, intoxicated and injured on the other side of a locked door, seeking help.
    The "self defense situation" was entirely in Wafer's frightened half asleep mind.
    ...and yours.
    She was causing such a ruckus that it was believed she was trying to break in.
    As to the underlined. You do not know that. She had already turned down help down. So to say she was seeking help flies in the face of the evidence.
    For all you know she thought she was breaking into her drug dealer house. Or her friends house.

    But what is known, is that she caused enough ruckus on the outside of a persons home to cause that person to think she was trying to break in, which is a threat.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    WTF?
    Is that what I said? No it wasn't, was it?

    I was pointing out your racism and what you ignored in your zeal to cast such aspersion.
    The racist shoe is clearly on your foot.


    Yes you do.


    You had to go outside of the provided article to find that.
    Some Stated have to charge lesser included offenses. He can not be found guilty of both.
    He is over charged as I pointed out earlier.


    How idiotically absurd a thing to say. Especially since it is claimed as an accidental discharge.
    If nothing else you are remarkably consistent...
    Any news story where a white guy shoots and kills an unarmed black kid, I can be absolutely sure what side excon is going to take regardless of the circumstances.
    We understand your position and we understand why you take it.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Tips? Please, you're a statistic waiting to happen. Someone robs you they'll have their way with you and your family and your possessions. And I feel bad for you, in your warped view of the world, that makes you the good guy.
    You didn't answer my question ... How many people have you had to kill for knocking on your door?
    You are such an expert on this subject there must have been dozens...
    Please tell us.

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