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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Most homes have attached gargages that access into you Kitchen and or Laundry area.

    Its not the 1940s you know.

    But speaking if quantum leaps in logic, is the victim supposed to know that that leaf blower is all that criminals interested in ?

    Or should the home owner just ask the nice burglar ? " Are you just interested in my lawn equipment sir, or something more " ?

    This is more how it should go....


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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I don't think the law is the issue here. I think Wafer's judgment is. I can't think of too many reasonable circumstances under which an unarmed teenage girl on the opposite side of a locked door poses a threat. 2nd degree murder seems about right.


    His actions were certainly questionable. That is why there is going to be a trial, with questions.



    Unfortunately certain people want to use a handful of incidents as an excuse to curtail the self-defense rights of millions.

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    No one is opposing self defense laws. But those laws have to be written in a way that doesn't create a whole new class of victims
    Hello, life ain't perfect. Pounding at someones door in the middle of the night in a crazed state isn't bright and you have to take into account that reality not just "Well it turns out afterwards she was not a threat!!"

    Don't give a ****, you pound on my door, and I repeatedly tell you to calm down and you pound more I'm gonna shoot your ass.
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
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    Where homeowners fear to defend their home and family perhaps.
    No. You're putting words in my mouth

    No one is promoting that you can just shoot someone for walking up to your door in the normal fashion.
    unless of course you think they look threatening?

    Having someone pounding on your doors and windows in the middle of the night, and damaging them apparently, is not the same as capping the Avon lady for ringing the door bell
    Now you're just being silly
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Most homes have attached gargages that access into you Kitchen and or Laundry area.

    Its not the 1940s you know.

    But speaking if quantum leaps in logic, is the victim supposed to know that that leaf blower is all that criminals interested in ?

    Or should the home owner just ask the nice burglar ? " Are you just interested in my lawn equipment sir, or something more " ?
    So all you feel you need is a "hunch" that the thief of your lawn equipment may want to hurt someone in your family and that is all the license you need to blow him away?
    What if your "hunch" is wrong and you just killed your brother-in-law who came over to borrow the thing because his is broken and wife forgot to tell you?
    Do you get off free because you had a hunch and a feeling of a threat and you chose to shoot first and ask questions later?

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Hello, life ain't perfect. Pounding at someones door in the middle of the night in a crazed state isn't bright and you have to take into account that reality not just "Well it turns out afterwards she was not a threat!!".
    How do you know she was in a "crazed state"? Because the guy who wants to avoid going to jail said so? There's an objective voice for ya.

    Don't give a ****, you pound on my door, and I repeatedly tell you to calm down and you pound more I'm gonna shoot your ass
    If this is true then you need have your guns confiscated
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    This is more how it should go....


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    Oh good grief G
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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    This is more how it should go....


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    Vin Diesel would shoot first and then ask.

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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Oh good grief G

    What? You think I should respond to someone stealing stuff out of my shed with... what? Fresh-baked cookies?



    Perhaps I could offer them cake.



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    Re: Homeowner Who Shot Dead A Teen Girl On His Porch Faces Murder Charges This Week

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Vin Diesel would shoot first and then ask.


    Oddly enough I prefer not to shoot people if I can help it.


    Hard to believe I know... but just scaring the **** out of them is much more fun, and doesn't get one talked about at church quite so badly.

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