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    $23 Billion Lawsuit Settlement for One Smoking Death

    JUL 19, 2014 6:04PM ET / NATIONAL
    Florida Jury Awards a $23 BILLION Settlement in Smoking Case

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    APA Florida jury smacked R.J. Reynolds, America's second-largest cigarette company, with $23.6 billion in damages in a smoking case late on Friday. It only seems to fair to say that the decision will prompt a quick appeal and that there's a pretty strong possibility that this award is going to be reduced.
    The suit was filed the widow of Michael Johnson Sr., a longtime smoker who died oflung cancer at the age of 36, leaving behind two children. From the AP:
    The case is one of thousands filed in Florida after the state Supreme Court in 2006 tossed out a $145 billion class actionverdict. That ruling also said smokers and their families need only prove addiction and that smoking caused their illnesses or deaths.
    Last year, Florida's highest court re-approved that decision, which made it easier for sick smokers or their survivors to pursue lawsuits against tobacco companies without having to prove to the court again that Big Tobacco knowingly sold dangerous products and hid the hazards of cigarette smoking.
    The four-week trial yielded 18 hours of deliberations before $17 million in compensatory damages was awarded. Then came the hammer. A $23.6 billion punitive judgment. The amount, while fun to think about, will almost certainly be reduced. As Frances Robles explained:
    Such efforts by the industry are often successful. In October 2002, a Los Angeles jury awarded $28 billion in punitive damages against Philip Morris USA. In August 2011, an appeals court reduced the punitive damages to $28 million.


    Anyone recall the BP oil spill two years ago and BP got nailed for 22 billion???!!! (one Billion less)Can you say "Our jjudicial system has gone mad"?
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    Re: $23 Billion Lawsuit Settlement for One Smoking Death

    It's stupid and highlights the idiocy of our tort system. What about the folks who are alcoholics and are destroyed at a young age leading to an early death?

    That said, I'm fine with compensatory damages, though even then the figure is way too high. But punitive damages should be taken off the table system wide. This would lower the cost of everything.

    If you want to punish a company you should have to make your case in criminal court. And then only criminal penalties should apply.

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    Re: $23 Billion Lawsuit Settlement for One Smoking Death

    If this man died recently at the age of 36 then he knew full well what the cigarettes would do to him and his wife should never have been awarded anything.

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    Re: $23 Billion Lawsuit Settlement for One Smoking Death

    Lawsuit is absurd, settlement is even worse. Same age as this guy and started smoking around the same time. Sorry, it was pretty common knowledge that they were addictive as hell and clearly bad for you.

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    Tobacco companies have spent decades trying to suppress knowledge of how dangerous smoking is. This isn't about just one guy.
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    Re: $23 Billion Lawsuit Settlement for One Smoking Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Tobacco companies have spent decades trying to suppress knowledge of how dangerous smoking is. This isn't about just one guy.
    But, the truth has been exposed?
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    Re: $23 Billion Lawsuit Settlement for One Smoking Death

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    JUL 19, 2014 6:04PM ET / NATIONAL
    Florida Jury Awards a $23 BILLION Settlement in Smoking Case

    ADAM CHANDLER 3,440 VIEWS
    APA Florida jury smacked R.J. Reynolds, America's second-largest cigarette company, with $23.6 billion in damages in a smoking case late on Friday. It only seems to fair to say that the decision will prompt a quick appeal and that there's a pretty strong possibility that this award is going to be reduced.
    The suit was filed the widow of Michael Johnson Sr., a longtime smoker who died oflung cancer at the age of 36, leaving behind two children. From the AP:
    The case is one of thousands filed in Florida after the state Supreme Court in 2006 tossed out a $145 billion class actionverdict. That ruling also said smokers and their families need only prove addiction and that smoking caused their illnesses or deaths.
    Last year, Florida's highest court re-approved that decision, which made it easier for sick smokers or their survivors to pursue lawsuits against tobacco companies without having to prove to the court again that Big Tobacco knowingly sold dangerous products and hid the hazards of cigarette smoking.
    The four-week trial yielded 18 hours of deliberations before $17 million in compensatory damages was awarded. Then came the hammer. A $23.6 billion punitive judgment. The amount, while fun to think about, will almost certainly be reduced. As Frances Robles explained:
    Such efforts by the industry are often successful. In October 2002, a Los Angeles jury awarded $28 billion in punitive damages against Philip Morris USA. In August 2011, an appeals court reduced the punitive damages to $28 million.


    Anyone recall the BP oil spill two years ago and BP got nailed for 22 billion???!!! (one Billion less)Can you say "Our jjudicial system has gone mad"?

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/law-an...okers-wid.html

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    Re: $23 Billion Lawsuit Settlement for One Smoking Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, the truth has been exposed?
    Yes, and? The crime was still committed.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: $23 Billion Lawsuit Settlement for One Smoking Death

    People pro-actively complain about how we need Tort Reform but ignore the fact that these huge payments are often significantly reduced or even eliminated.
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    Re: $23 Billion Lawsuit Settlement for One Smoking Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, and? The crime was still committed.
    Crime? What crime?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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