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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Uh, no. Wrong answer!

    Flat tax is still a tax, still have to determine income, still have deductions, credits, etc. A flat tax just eliminates lots of deductions little people take, and makes their returns slightly easier, and maybe instead of 5 rates there is one or two, but simple returns are already checked by computer and a computer can check 12 or 40 lines as easily as 3. Tax returns for businesses or the wealthy don't get much easier, if at all. And no matter what kind of tax, people will cheat, not file, etc. and you'll need the IRS to catch them, and collect their taxes, send a few of them to jail, etc.
    Great. Abolish the IRS. Have the states collect all of the taxes and send in whatever is appropriate.

    How much did you earn?
    Multiply by 10%.
    Send it in.

    Screw all of the hangers on who make a living from a complex tax law.

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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I suspected the right wing had decided that if a "leftist" was for something, they'd be against it just because, but haven't ever actually seen anyone ADMIT being that irrational.

    And democrats are HOPING the GOP shuts down government, right before the election. So I'm with you - shut it down, shut off the Medicare checks, shut off the SS checks, shut down the airports, and the courts, and the parks, etc. Obviously cut off checks to the soldiers, park the planes and ships in hangars and docks. Shut the whole thing down!
    I am for it. Shut it all down.
    Medicare is paid for by payroll deductions.
    Social security is paid for by payroll deductions.
    Privatize airports.
    The federal courts are not our friends. Shut them down.

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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Great. Abolish the IRS. Have the states collect all of the taxes and send in whatever is appropriate.

    How much did you earn?
    Multiply by 10%.
    Send it in.

    Screw all of the hangers on who make a living from a complex tax law.
    Yeah, leave it to the states. IRS does about 90% of the state's work for them, so shouldn't be a problem. And you're right - 'what did you earn' is a simple thing to determine. All that work we accountants do is to figure out how to multiply that amount you 'earned' by a complex formula, such as, (Earnings X .35) = Tax due. Took me 4 years and passing the CPA to learn how to use more than one rate. VERY difficult stuff.

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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I am for it. Shut it all down.
    Medicare is paid for by payroll deductions.
    Social security is paid for by payroll deductions.
    Privatize airports.
    The federal courts are not our friends. Shut them down.
    Not much to say to that but LMAO.

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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm with you on this one - I'd like to see the government numbers on estimates of taxes not paid or in default.
    as you request here it goes.
    IRS Can't Collect Billions in Unpaid Taxes - ABC News

    quite a bit of that is from government staffers who haven't paid their taxes.

    this is the best of all
    IRS workers who didn't pay taxes got bonuses

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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i fail to see how gutting the budget of the governments tax collection agency is going to solve the countries money troubles
    Its part of the announced goal of making government so small they can drown it in a bathtub.
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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    as you request here it goes.
    IRS Can't Collect Billions in Unpaid Taxes - ABC News

    quite a bit of that is from government staffers who haven't paid their taxes.

    this is the best of all
    IRS workers who didn't pay taxes got bonuses
    I'm torn - clearly, there's a need to enforce tax laws and investigate those who don't, but if those who are tasked with the job are also some of the ones who need to be investigated, then perhaps cutting their funding is the first step to getting things cleared up.
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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm torn - clearly, there's a need to enforce tax laws and investigate those who don't, but if those who are tasked with the job are also some of the ones who need to be investigated, then perhaps cutting their funding is the first step to getting things cleared up.
    that is just the tip of the iceburg there are hundreds to thousands of federal workers that haven't paid taxes yet.
    to me that should be an auto firing. there is no reason that you should be able to work for the federal government and not pay your taxes.

    Federal workers owe the IRS $3.3 billion - May. 23, 2014

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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    that is just the tip of the iceburg there are hundreds to thousands of federal workers that haven't paid taxes yet.
    to me that should be an auto firing. there is no reason that you should be able to work for the federal government and not pay your taxes.

    Federal workers owe the IRS $3.3 billion - May. 23, 2014
    I agree with you - if you committed any other crime, your job would surely be in jeopardy if not automatically lost. I do find it odd though, that sufficient withholdings aren't the norm. Seems to me another example of government incapable of managing the affairs it is tasked with.
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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I agree with you - if you committed any other crime, your job would surely be in jeopardy if not automatically lost. I do find it odd though, that sufficient withholdings aren't the norm. Seems to me another example of government incapable of managing the affairs it is tasked with.
    yep pretty much. or the fact they have withholdings taken out and they have never filed. which is just as bad.

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