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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You gut their budget, then stuff like this will continued unchecked.

    That's going to go on whether their budget is gutted or not. That's what the White House wants, to give money to people who do not deserve it. It's the liberal way.
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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So you are going to vote third party then right? Because the Dems AND the GOP have become too corrupt.
    What makes you think that third parties are any less corrupt?
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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Flat tax. We do not need the IRS. Get rid of them.
    You're still going to need someone to collect the money, even if you do eliminate the IRS, you'll have to replace it with something else.
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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You're still going to need someone to collect the money, even if you do eliminate the IRS, you'll have to replace it with something else.
    Each state can collect the taxes it owes to the feds. Then the states can attach strings to the money it allocates to the feds.

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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Each state can collect the taxes it owes to the feds. Then the states can attach strings to the money it allocates to the feds.
    Which doesn't fix the problem, it just makes 50 little IRS clones. I'll never understand people who think the states are any more honest than the feds.
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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Oh good, now romney types can reopen their Swiss bank accounts.

    Mitt Romney had millions in a Swiss bank account, Barack Obama campaign ad says | PolitiFact

    Well, maybe Obama should hsve thought of that before siccing the IRS on his Political counter parts.

    He knew the GOP House held the purse strings so he must have known there would be repercussions.

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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Well, maybe Obama should hsve thought of that before siccing the IRS on his Political counter parts.

    He knew the GOP House held the purse strings so he must have known there would be repercussions.
    You're welcome to believe that if you wish, far be it from me or anyone else to try to change your thought process. I know great conspiracies when I see them, this ain't one, it's parroting what someone saw or heard.

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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    But that's only because there are more Americans today than ever before. That means there are more Americans requiring social services that require more money to fund. The percentage is more important than the actual numbers.
    Not when the comparison was to actual, real dollars in revenue being the highest ever. If you want to talk percentages, then the revenue number also has to be a percentage - a per eligible worker number - and not just a flat dollar figure.
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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Each state can collect the taxes it owes to the feds. Then the states can attach strings to the money it allocates to the feds.
    You know, that makes sense!

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    Re: House GOP votes to gut IRS budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Which doesn't fix the problem, it just makes 50 little IRS clones. I'll never understand people who think the states are any more honest than the feds.
    Something that the great men who founded this nation clearly understood, but which too many today to not, is that smaller, more localized government is generally easier to keep accountable to the governed. It's why they wrote the Constitution to only delegate specific, limited powers to the federal government, with the Tenth Amendment to reserve any further powers to the states or the people.

    I like Misterveritis' idea, but would take it further. Let's put tax collection in the hands of city, town, and county-level governments. These governments are the most local, and most accountable to the people that they serve. This is where the decisions should be made as to what services government needs to provide to the people, which of these can best be handled by this most local level of government, how much needs to be collected in taxes to fund these services, and which services should be delegated to higher levels of government, and how much shall be collected in taxes and passed up to that higher level in order to fund it. City/town/county governments could then delegate tasks up to the state level, and pass up to the state the taxpayer funds deemed appropriate to fund these tasks. State governments could similarly delegate tasks up to the federal government, and pass along the amount of taxpayer funds that the state deems appropriate.

    This way, control over government, spending, and taxes, would begin at the most localized level, and be delegated upward as necessary, rather than beginning at the federal level. Such a system would clearly be much more accountable to those subject to such governing and taxation, and would be much more in line with the clear intent of the great men who founded this nation.
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