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Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill..[W:324]

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So an anonomous threat on life is less serious than if the source is known?

Never said that, now if you actually decide to read what I did say is that I can simply say anything I wish because of my anonymity, my full unadulterated opinion can be voiced.

Seriousness isn't an issue here.
 
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Appeal to popularity is logical fallacy, FYI.

What appeal to popularity, I simply gave a fact of the past. FYI
 
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They shouldn't have to worry anyway with the power they have.

I think its healthy for politicians to worry about normal or average citizens being pushed to the point of wanting to overthrow a politician who becomes corrupt.

There is an old saying that has much truth

when the citizens fear the government you have a police state

when the politicians fear the citizenry, you have a constitutional republic
 
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You are the one off-topic. This thread is about a Obama, not Bush.
Perhaps in la la land but here... the thread is about this woman sending out a twitter asking "Where's an assassin when you need one." I thought you at least would know what the thread was about but I was apparently mistaken.

The Secret Service should arrest this woman and question her at length. If she is found to be a threat in their eyes, she should be tried in a court of law. If she were only kidding, she could present that in her defense.

The SS should do what they normally do in a threat situation. I don't presume to know what their SOP would be.
 
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You advocate that?
It kind of sounds like you do.

Advocate killing Manson? Oh, the horror. I personally wish someone ripped his guts open years ago.
 
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Never said that, now if you actually decide to read what I did say is that I can simply say anything I wish because of my anonymity, my full unadulterated opinion can be voiced.

Seriousness isn't an issue here.

so if you were not anonymous, the words you can say change?
 
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so if you were not anonymous, the words you can say change?

You know the answer to that. If I was stupid enough to put my name in this forum I would force myself to use extreme caution when typing.

Anonymity means everything on the internet. As for the NSA? ehh whatever let em have all the things they want, anonymity won't change that.

I simply lie with everything when a sign-in asks for your name, age, etc.
 
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Its a crosshairs on her district. And others. Not her.

Palin's site listed their names below the target/map not just the districts.
The cross-hairs may as well have been drawn on their faces.
If it was so ****ing innocent, why did the Palin people take the image off the site within a half hour after Gifford's shooting?
 
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Perhaps in la la land but here... the thread is about this woman sending out a twitter asking "Where's an assassin when you need one." I thought you at least would know what the thread was about but I was apparently mistaken.



The SS should do what they normally do in a threat situation. I don't presume to know what their SOP would be.

:lol: Isn't it funny how they bring in Bush or even other posters when it's convenient, but when it isn't convenient, then *holds nose for goofy nasally voice* "the topic is about Obama."
 
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What appeal to popularity, I simply gave a fact of the past. FYI

Not quite the sharpest knife in the drawer, huh? Let me try to enlighten you. I claimed that celebrating gh death or humans is inhuman and sick. To which you responded by saying no, lots of people celebrated Hitler's death. What you're trying to do is to excuse your actions of jubilance over the idea of killing this woman by saying lots of people celebrated Hitler's death. That is appeal to popularism. What you desire is not bad because so many other peoe did it in this other case. It of course does not speak to the humanity of wishing others dead, nor even is immediately applicable since this woman is not on the level of Hitler. Which is why appeal to popularism is a logical fallacy in the first place.

It's called thinking...you may want to consider it.
 
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You know the answer to that. If I was stupid enough to put my name in this forum I would force myself to use extreme caution when typing.

Anonymity means everything on the internet. As for the NSA? ehh whatever let em have all the things they want, anonymity won't change that.

I simply lie with everything when a sign-in asks for your name, age, etc.

:lamo Well, now we know that we should just ignore you and not take anything you say seriously at all.
 
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Palin's site listed their names below the target/map not just the districts.
The cross-hairs may as well have been drawn on their faces.
If it was so ****ing innocent, why did the Palin people take the image off the site within a half hour after Gifford's shooting?

If she did what you claimed, she'd have been arrested. You're continued posting on this issue is nothing but a distraction. It's a lie.... you continuing to repeat the lie still makes it a lie.

Any comment on this woman and her actions from the OP?
 
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Advocate killing Manson? Oh, the horror. I personally wish someone ripped his guts open years ago.

I was referring to the concept of murder for hire.
That is more than a wish...
 
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You know the answer to that. If I was stupid enough to put my name in this forum I would force myself to use extreme caution when typing.

Anonymity means everything on the internet. As for the NSA? ehh whatever let em have all the things they want, anonymity won't change that.

I simply lie with everything when a sign-in asks for your name, age, etc.

So if you're unknown you can say anything without fear of reprisal nor is what you said to be taken seriously for condemnations or calls to action which may otherwise be illegal. But if you are known, then the threats carry more weight and your speech is restricted? Interesting argument.
 
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Palin's site listed their names below the target/map not just the districts.
The cross-hairs may as well have been drawn on their faces.
If it was so ****ing innocent, why did the Palin people take the image off the site within a half hour after Gifford's shooting?

Respect? Decorum? Decency?
 
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Talking about killing the president of the USA is never funny.

Some people would obviously disagree with you.
 
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If it can be proven that she said it then she needs to suffer whatever consequences arise from that.




In any case, it's not funny.

Well fortunately I did NOT say it was funny to me anywhere in this thread, so you can drop that line now.
 
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So if you're unknown you can say anything without fear of reprisal nor is what you said to be taken seriously for condemnations or calls to action which may otherwise be illegal. But if you are known, then the threats carry more weight and your speech is restricted? Interesting argument.

Let's face it, the woman made a stupid comment on her FB, and people are talking about it because they want it to look as if right wing groups are out to assassinate Obama. Do they KNOW how stupid they look with this stuff? Probably not, they seem to be SO unaware of practically everything.
 
Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill Obama (IMAGE)

I think its healthy for politicians to worry about normal or average citizens being pushed to the point of wanting to overthrow a politician who becomes corrupt.

There is an old saying that has much truth

when the citizens fear the government you have a police state

when the politicians fear the citizenry, you have a constitutional republic

I've heard that saying before and agree with it to an extent, but we still have to watch out for people who make serious threats to a president's life. Politicians should fear the people, but most people are too stupid to see the politician for what he is. They want to coddle and protect him and love him and kiss him. :lol:
 
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Let's face it, the woman made a stupid comment on her FB, and people are talking about it because they want it to look as if right wing groups are out to assassinate Obama. Do they KNOW how stupid they look with this stuff? Probably not, they seem to be SO unaware of practically everything.

I don't even care what she said. We should go back to the 50's when a man could preach open revolution. Politicians should worry about losing their heads for if they act against the rights and liberties of the People, maybe they should lose their heads.
 
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I think its healthy for politicians to worry about normal or average citizens being pushed to the point of wanting to overthrow a politician who becomes corrupt.
"Overthrow" indicates removal through political means...This case involves a call for assassination. Do you not see any distinction?

There is an old saying that has much truth

when the citizens fear the government you have a police state

when the politicians fear the citizenry, you have a constitutional republic
When the imminent threat of assassination affects the way a politician does their job we have governance by thuggery and murderers.
That's OK with you?
There is nothing "constitutional" about that.
 
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I don't even care what she said. We should go back to the 50's when a man could preach open revolution. Politicians should worry about losing their heads for if they act against the rights and liberties of the People, maybe they should lose their heads.

Perhaps they should. We wouldn't have any politicians left if that were the case though. :lol:
 
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"Overthrow" indicates removal through political means...This case involves a call for assassination. Do you not see any distinction?


When the imminent threat of assassination affects the way a politician does their job we have governance by thuggery and murderers.
That's OK with you?
There is nothing "constitutional" about that.

given your silly comments about "fetishists" you really aren't in a position to be lecturing me on definitions or what the constitution says
 
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