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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill Obama (IMAGE)

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    You know..... There are lots of Terrible groups with political ideologies lining up with both Conservative and Liberal ideals. Just because they happen to support a particular position, while also being bat**** crazy, doesn't take away from the position that they support.


    This thread is an example of trying to attribute all gun supporters with a bat**** crazy biatch. For those who have two brain cells to rub together, this attempt failed.


    /thread.
    Does it make a difference that she is a founder of the group and not a low level follower?

    How many of her followers will follow her in her thinking?

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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill Obama (IMAGE)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Does it make a difference that she is a founder of the group and not a low level follower?

    How many of her followers will follow her in her thinking?
    I wasn't aware that it was a cult? Just a group of moms who support 2nd amendment rights. It just so happens that a member of their group made some stupid comments. Unless you have some evidence that this is a cult, I don't think people will be "following" her and doing her dirty deeds. She isn't Charles Manson, I don't think.

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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill..[W:324]

    " where's an assassin when you need one?"
    " if i get ahold of Obama, I would Kill him"


    what do these statements have in common?... neither are indictable threats.

    there are supreme court cases on this stuff already people...
    hell..... wanting ,wishing, or hoping someone else would kill the President is not punishable under federal statute (United States v. Daulong)... it is, in practical terms, protected speech.


    those whom want this woman killed, jailed, or somehow punished... are wrong.....
    she has not broken any laws... nothing she has said is indictable under federal statute.


    what should happen to her?.... not a goddamn thing.

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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill..[W:324]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You think it was a serious threat?
    There were several death threats investigated when I was in the federal service. some were complete nut cases, others were angry almost nut cases. I believe a couple were prosecuted. But the sad truth is-a professional cleaner is not going to send a death threat to his target. Nor is an agent of a hostile entity who has been trained to engage in such activity.

    The truth is

    SS can stop most amateurs. and some pros who are worried about being caught. what they cannot stop is some amateurs who are willing to die and even less stoppable is a well trained professional who doesn't care being caught



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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill..[W:324]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    So you think that conversation was serious? Interesting, because I saw it as a couple of dummies joking around but too dumb to realize that what they were saying could actually get them into some trouble. I really don't think it was a serious threat, but if it comes out that it was, I will take that back. I am quite skeptical though.
    If I'm the SS then I'm treating every fleeting joke as serious.

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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill Obama (IMAGE)

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I wasn't aware that it was a cult? Just a group of moms who support 2nd amendment rights. It just so happens that a member of their group made some stupid comments. Unless you have some evidence that this is a cult, I don't think people will be "following" her and doing her dirty deeds. She isn't Charles Manson, I don't think.
    What are you getting all upset about? I asked a question.

    How do you know who is in her group?

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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill..[W:324]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You think it was a serious threat?
    Well, now that I've actually read the article, no, I don't think so.

    Still, I hope her life gets very uncomfortable for a while.
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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill Obama (IMAGE)

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Did they make any arrests? Wiggen says that threatening the president is against the law and a crime, so I assume anyone who made any threats against GWB was arrested? Links?
    Man arrested after allegedly threatening to kill George W. Bush - CNN.com
    Secret Service: Pittsford man Benjamin Smith arrested after threatening President Bush over daughter

    Both of these came after Bush's presidency ended.

    This one didn't:
    Pacoima man held in alleged threat on Bush - Los Angeles Times

    Wiki has several other instances that were investigated, but no arrests were made. An arrest is usually not made without an overt, at least semi-credible threat.
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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill..[W:324]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If I'm the SS then I'm treating every fleeting joke as serious.
    Sure, I've already said that she should be investigated. I am just skeptical that it will amount to anything other than a dumbass running off her mouth because she is upset with Obama.

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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill..[W:324]

    I'll bet anything that this just dies out and goes away and we don't hear anything else about it after a couple of days until the NEXT news article of interest pops up!

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