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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill Obama (IMAGE)

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Most dems I know were openly critical of Obama even mid first term. We might have been critical of him for different reasons though.

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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill Obama (IMAGE)

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Come on - be real. Most Dems were full on infatuated with Obama and if they were at all critical it was because he was slow walking his Obama-ness and not hitting it full on as they wanted him to. Even now, after 5 plus years of a disastrous Presidency, a recent poll showed 74% of Democrats think Obama is doing a good job - that's just asinine cultish groupthink. So don't give me a line about "most dems" being openly critical of Obama.
    Most dems I know had/have big issues with ACA. They are pretty vocal about it. I know many who have grave issues (including myself)with how long the wars went on Huge issues.

    But with wars winding down and the economy improving. Yeah, the edge is taken off a bit.

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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill Obama (IMAGE)

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I meant assassinations by the United States government of foreign leaders wasn't illegal until 1975.
    That's comforting. When was it that beating ones wife became illegal, owning slaves or working children in our factories.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill Obama (IMAGE)

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I liked Bush II and supported much of what he did, but never with the kind of fandamonium zeal that Obama-ites display.
    Maybe you didn't, but there was pahlenteee of it around south of you.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill Obama (IMAGE)

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Maybe you didn't, but there was pahlenteee of it around south of you.
    I could be wrong, but I think those on the left and liberals in general are much more wrapped up in the celebrity effect. I don't remember there being a Bush Girl or any Bush idol worship that is prevalent with the Obama-ites.
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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill Obama (IMAGE)

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I knew what you meant but I was late getting here and waiting to see if you or anyone else explained it for the peanut gallery before I had to. It's embarrassing when a Canadian can follow things that some Americans seem oblivious to.
    Oh please. We all followed it just fine. It's just that it was such ****ing pathetic commentary. Assassinating foreign diplomats was just fine pre 1975 because the gawd damn American government didn't recognise the crime "officially" until after 1975. The US government doesn't recognise ITS brand of war crimes as criminal either, or the authority of the ICC, until its time to take another individual, group or country before it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill Obama (IMAGE)

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I could be wrong, but I think those on the left and liberals in general are much more wrapped up in the celebrity effect. I don't remember there being a Bush Girl or any Bush idol worship that is prevalent with the Obama-ites.
    That's such a partisan comment. Don't you think your conservative lean gives you superior vision for such things when its in the liberal democrat camp. I know for damn sure that the partisan liberal democrats bias gives them superior vision to spot republican hypocrisy and GOP worship.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill Obama (IMAGE)

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh please. We all followed it just fine. It's just that it was such ****ing pathetic commentary. Assassinating foreign diplomats was just fine pre 1975 because the gawd damn American government didn't recognise the crime "officially" until after 1975. The US government doesn't recognise ITS brand of war crimes as criminal either, or the authority of the ICC, until its time to take another individual, group or country before it.
    1. The US isn't a party to the International Criminal Court, so what it thinks or doesn't think about it's authority or procedures is irrelevant both to the ICC and the US. But if another country is party, it's perfectly reasonable for the US to point out the hypocrisy of that country not subjecting their leadership to the ICC.

    2. The comment made was in reference to the Kennedy administration's attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro, so the reference to the legality of the act was relevant and it was, indeed, declared by legislation through the US Congress to be illegal in the mid-seventies. Until then, it was presumed to be legal in the US. Also presumably, if the US assassinated a foreign leader, it's likely that the US President who gave the order wouldn't be visiting that foreign country for the rest of his life - because, as you noted, US law doesn't governed other countries.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill Obama (IMAGE)

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Ohhh that's right ...of course ....that's why the Dallas Police let Lee Harvey Oswald go...
    He didn't commit any crime at all. He was just a perfectly legal assassin.


    sarc/
    I believe we are referring to the U.S. government assassinating another foreign head of state. It became illegal during the 1970's.

    Wouldn't it have it been cheaper in blood and money if the CIA could have assassinated Saddam Hussein ?

    Back in 1963 JFK signed off on the CIA backed military coups of regime change in South Vietnam. Unfortunately it ended up that President Diem was assassinated.
    The rest is history, we owned Vietnam after that. Vietnam became our responsibility, it became our problem because the world watched. If JFK/LBJ backed off, SEATO would collapse and then NATO would collapse.

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    Re: Founder Of ‘Moms With Guns’ Asks For Someone To Kill Obama (IMAGE)

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That's such a partisan comment. Don't you think your conservative lean gives you superior vision for such things when its in the liberal democrat camp. I know for damn sure that the partisan liberal democrats bias gives them superior vision to spot republican hypocrisy and GOP worship.
    It may be a partisan comment, but that doesn't make it untrue. The way the left treats its political leaders is far more like celebrity worship than anything the right does.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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