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    Re: One Of The NSA's Original Whistleblowers Says The Goal Is 'Total Population Contr

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Did I ever say I was?

    I said federal judges were. You know, the guys that oversee NSA?
    Those guys do a great job. In fact, they do as good a job as the supreme court does upholding the constitution.

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    Re: One Of The NSA's Original Whistleblowers Says The Goal Is 'Total Population Contr

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Well, too bad, huh?
    Yeah, it's really too bad the government can't be trusted, but then that was known before the NSA was established.

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    Re: One Of The NSA's Original Whistleblowers Says The Goal Is 'Total Population Contr

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    The proverbial "shotgun approach" is unnecessary.

    We can keep the NSA as it has a valid purpose, at least in times of legitimate war.

    The NSA and its government brethren must simply learn to obey the law, which it now violates with impunity. You know, that part that says "no warrant shall issue, but upon probable cause"?
    You could, but currently it is creating more issues than it solves and it seems to be rooted deep in the agency itself. Nix it, we can make a new agency under better restriction, regulation, and control.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: One Of The NSA's Original Whistleblowers Says The Goal Is 'Total Population Contr

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Those guys do a great job. In fact, they do as good a job as the supreme court does upholding the constitution.
    ...in your uneducated and inexperienced opinion...

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah, it's really too bad the government can't be trusted, but then that was known before the NSA was established.
    Uh huh. Tell me more! Who should we trust!?
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    Re: One Of The NSA's Original Whistleblowers Says The Goal Is 'Total Population Contr

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Talk to Ikari, he's the one that suggested it. Again, you're not the arbiter of what's probable cause and what's not. We have people who have years and years of education and experience for that, not internet conspiracy theorists.
    Most of whom wouldn't know the Constitution if they were hit in the head with it. These are some of the same twits who I watched in person screw the pooch big time in Iraq. Sorry but most of those people deciding probable cause are either shills or educated fools. I don't trust them as far as I can throw an elephant. The NSA's mandate was FOREIGN signals intelligence gathering not domestic. As they have strayed into domestic intelligence gathering they need to be dismantled and replaced completely. Further all their operatives need to be very thoroughly investigated.
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    Re: One Of The NSA's Original Whistleblowers Says The Goal Is 'Total Population Contr

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Most of whom wouldn't know the Constitution if they were hit in the head with it. These are some of the same twits who I watched in person screw the pooch big time in Iraq.
    Federal judges?

    Sorry but most of those people deciding probable cause are either shills or educated fools. I don't trust them as far as I can throw an elephant. The NSA's mandate was FOREIGN signals intelligence gathering not domestic. As they have strayed into domestic intelligence gathering they need to be dismantled and replaced completely.
    See, this is just ignorant. It's wholly ignorant about how the IC works and where foreign stops and domestic begins. So then the question is: should we listen to people that aren't educated or experienced in intelligence (different from law, now, which is what I was talking about previously), or those that are educated and experienced. Which do you think sounds better?

    Further all their operatives need to be very thoroughly investigated.
    lol? They already are, to an absurd extent.
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    Re: One Of The NSA's Original Whistleblowers Says The Goal Is 'Total Population Contr

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Federal judges?



    See, this is just ignorant. It's wholly ignorant about how the IC works and where foreign stops and domestic begins. So then the question is: should we listen to people that aren't educated or experienced in intelligence (different from law, now, which is what I was talking about previously), or those that are educated and experienced. Which do you think sounds better?



    lol? They already are, to an absurd extent.
    I sometimes wonder if Federal Judges are even literate.

    Then educate what an IC is and were foreign stops and starts and how it works. So I can have a more informed opinion. Otherwise I go with what I know which is the NSA severely overstepped its mandate and needs to be dismantled and replaced. I am involved in a couple of business that are very different, manufacturing and logistics. But the one thing I insist on is making sure my clients are educated as to at least in general how things work and why they the way they are. I don't send product that my client doesn't know exactly what the capabilities are. And I make sure my logistics clients are very aware of what logistics capacities and limitations they have and the time frames required to accomplish a particular mission. If the NSA is being pummeled unfairly then maybe they need to educate the public on what they do why and how. Oh and maybe actually protect the constitution instead of finding a way around it or bending it. Oh by the way, actually tell the truth for a change instead of lying their asses off.

    They aren't investigated to an absurd extent, not even close. I have been vetted. So I have a very good idea the process for obtaining and keeping clearance.
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    Re: One Of The NSA's Original Whistleblowers Says The Goal Is 'Total Population Contr

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I sometimes wonder if Federal Judges are even literate.
    Well, if you have to wonder such things, that's a good indication that you shouldn't be in charge of policy.
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    Re: One Of The NSA's Original Whistleblowers Says The Goal Is 'Total Population Contr

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Well, if you have to wonder such things, that's a good indication that you shouldn't be in charge of policy.
    Well if you actually read their opinions, you would wonder too. I am involved with a big fight with the California Air Resources Board, regarding the Truck and Bus rule. So I get to read rulings made by federal judges on occasion. The current "judge" is a brain dead twit. I am being nice when I say that. Considering the rulings of the various judges I have seen on a variety of subjects, their literacy is in serious doubt as far as I am concerned, because they most certainly cannot comprehend what they read.
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    Re: One Of The NSA's Original Whistleblowers Says The Goal Is 'Total Population Contr

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Well if you actually read their opinions, you would wonder too. I am involved with a big fight with the California Air Resources Board, regarding the Truck and Bus rule. So I get to read rulings made by federal judges on occasion. The current "judge" is a brain dead twit. I am being nice when I say that. Considering the rulings of the various judges I have seen on a variety of subjects, their literacy is in serious doubt as far as I am concerned, because they most certainly cannot comprehend what they read.
    Okay, well you go on thinking judges can't read. I'm sure people will take you seriously when you talk about things.
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