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Our governments spied on 6 Muslim Americans for years and years. All guilty of doing nothing! This just shows our FISA "Court" is nothing but a reubber stamp. Its simply a rubber stamp. The FISA "Court" will "rumber stamp" just about anything. It will stamp your names that were in the GOP to if if your name was "foreign" sounding. This is ridiculous.
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Our governments spied on 6 Muslim Americans for years and years. All guilty of doing nothing! This just shows our FISA "Court" is nothing but a reubber stamp. Its simply a rubber stamp. The FISA "Court" will "rumber stamp" just about anything. It will stamp your names that were in the GOP to if if your name was "foreign" sounding. This is ridiculous.
Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad Raghead"

I understand that Greenwald is being called for scoring a spectacular own goal. Five of those Muslims had ties to terrorists organizations and have been involved in radical activities..
 
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Those are only the muslims we know about, those whose names were in the Snowden data.

I'm sure the actual count is much higher.
 
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Our governments spied on 6 Muslim Americans for years and years. All guilty of doing nothing! This just shows our FISA "Court" is nothing but a reubber stamp. Its simply a rubber stamp. The FISA "Court" will "rumber stamp" just about anything. It will stamp your names that were in the GOP to if if your name was "foreign" sounding. This is ridiculous.
Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad Raghead"

If they're American citizens, why are they going to the FISA court?
 
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...because that's what the FISA court covers?

Why would this prove FISA is a rubber stamp? One doesn't follow the other.
 
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What does it have to do with the GOP? Last I heard we had a Dem regime in charge?


Our governments spied on 6 Muslim Americans for years and years. All guilty of doing nothing! This just shows our FISA "Court" is nothing but a reubber stamp. Its simply a rubber stamp. The FISA "Court" will "rumber stamp" just about anything. It will stamp your names that were in the GOP to if if your name was "foreign" sounding. This is ridiculous.
Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad Raghead"
 
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Those are only the muslims we know about, those whose names were in the Snowden data.

I'm sure the actual count is much higher.




If you're sure that means you have some actual proof that will stand up in court, eh?

Let's see it or shut up.
 
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You're right Shrubnose, I was employing a figure of speech. I was watching from the sidelines, as I have nothing to do with the subject of discussion.

So let me rephrase it: I bet that there are more muslims under surveillance than those 5.

Does that work for you? If you find out, let me know, because I don't really care about it. :peace
 
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You're right Shrubnose, I was employing a figure of speech. I was watching from the sidelines, as I have nothing to do with the subject of discussion.

So let me rephrase it: I
bet that there are more muslims under surveillance than those 5
.

Does that work for you? If you find out, let me know, because I don't really care about it. :peace




Guess what? I agree.There are probably a lot more than those five.

And most of them don't deserve the surveillance, but this is the post-9/11 USA.
 
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Notice how none of them were guilty of nothing. None of those organizations are guilty of terrorism. Just because Briedbart.com wants them to be terrorist organizations does not make them so.

Just because you don't like Brietbart.com doesn't mean they are wrong. Brietbart provides over a dozen links to sites to support their claims and those sites link other sites besides.

Being proved guilty of a crime obviously isn't a requirement for being under investigation. What a silly thing to think. You think the FBI can only investigate people who have already been proved guilty in a court of law?

Greenwald has jumped the shark if this is the best he's got.
 
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Just because you don't like Brietbart.com doesn't mean they are wrong. Brietbart provides over a dozen links to sites to support their claims and those sites link other sites besides.

Being proved guilty of a crime obviously isn't a requirement for being under investigation. What a silly thing to think. You think the FBI can only investigate people who have already been proved guilty in a court of law?

Greenwald has jumped the shark if this is the best he's got.

The point is that the men under surveillance had done nothing wrong. There was no "probable cause" for a crime having been committed. See USC, Fourth Amendment.

Absent probable cause, no warrant shall issue.
 
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Who says there was no probable course?
 
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Just because you don't like Brietbart.com doesn't mean they are wrong. Brietbart provides over a dozen links to sites to support their claims and those sites link other sites besides.

Being proved guilty of a crime obviously isn't a requirement for being under investigation. What a silly thing to think. You think the FBI can only investigate people who have already been proved guilty in a court of law?

Greenwald has jumped the shark if this is the best he's got.

Why would anyone ever take Briebart as a serious source espeically after this trash? Muslim Prayer Rug Found on Arizona Border by Independent American Security Contractors http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...independent-american-security-contractor.html
 
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This has nothing to do with this thread. It's what we call a "smear", and it's a very low class form of rhetoric. I assume you resort to this smear because you find Breitbart's argument vis a vis Greenwald unassailable. Thank's for this tacit admission of your defeat. I'm done with this thread.
 
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Who says there was no probable course?

Who says there WAS probable cause?

One of the individuals was appointed to some position or the other by Dubya.
 
Re: Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad

Who says there WAS probable cause?

One of the individuals was appointed to some position or the other by Dubya.
Federal judges. Like people with actual legal education and experience.

Henry: you don't matter. You're nothing. You're no one. You need to understand that.
 
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Federal judges. Like people with actual legal education and experience.

Henry: you don't matter. You're nothing. You're no one. You need to understand that.

Some people here who know only what they are allowed to read in public blogs have determined that the FISA court is a rubber stamp and are outraged. When asked for their evidence ththat there was no probably cause used they refer back to their distrust of the court. It's circular logic.
 
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11 rejections out of 33,900 requests sounds like a rubber stamp.
 
Re: Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad

Federal judges. Like people with actual legal education and experience.

Henry: you don't matter. You're nothing. You're no one. You need to understand that.

Keep telling yourself that OWO.

In the meantime, what proof is there that FISA blessed off on this?

Just to keep things in perspective, Dubya admitted in front of Congress, on TV, that he and his had not complied with FISA, and that was way back when.
 
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Keep telling yourself that OWO.

In the meantime, what proof is there that FISA blessed off on this?

Just to keep things in perspective, Dubya admitted in front of Congress, on TV, that he and his had not complied with FISA, and that was way back when.

Okay stop.
 
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Oh dear, it is hurting already?
 
Re: Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad

Yes. Arguments from ignorance always do.
 
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