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    Re: Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Notice how none of them were guilty of nothing. None of those organizations are guilty of terrorism. Just because Briedbart.com wants them to be terrorist organizations does not make them so.
    Just because you don't like Brietbart.com doesn't mean they are wrong. Brietbart provides over a dozen links to sites to support their claims and those sites link other sites besides.

    Being proved guilty of a crime obviously isn't a requirement for being under investigation. What a silly thing to think. You think the FBI can only investigate people who have already been proved guilty in a court of law?

    Greenwald has jumped the shark if this is the best he's got.

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    Re: Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Just because you don't like Brietbart.com doesn't mean they are wrong. Brietbart provides over a dozen links to sites to support their claims and those sites link other sites besides.

    Being proved guilty of a crime obviously isn't a requirement for being under investigation. What a silly thing to think. You think the FBI can only investigate people who have already been proved guilty in a court of law?

    Greenwald has jumped the shark if this is the best he's got.
    The point is that the men under surveillance had done nothing wrong. There was no "probable cause" for a crime having been committed. See USC, Fourth Amendment.

    Absent probable cause, no warrant shall issue.

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    Re: Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad

    Who says there was no probable course?
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    Re: Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Just because you don't like Brietbart.com doesn't mean they are wrong. Brietbart provides over a dozen links to sites to support their claims and those sites link other sites besides.

    Being proved guilty of a crime obviously isn't a requirement for being under investigation. What a silly thing to think. You think the FBI can only investigate people who have already been proved guilty in a court of law?

    Greenwald has jumped the shark if this is the best he's got.
    Why would anyone ever take Briebart as a serious source espeically after this trash? Muslim Prayer Rug Found on Arizona Border by Independent American Security Contractors http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...ontractor.html


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    Re: Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    This has nothing to do with this thread. It's what we call a "smear", and it's a very low class form of rhetoric. I assume you resort to this smear because you find Breitbart's argument vis a vis Greenwald unassailable. Thank's for this tacit admission of your defeat. I'm done with this thread.

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    Re: Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Who says there was no probable course?
    Who says there WAS probable cause?

    One of the individuals was appointed to some position or the other by Dubya.

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    Re: Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Who says there WAS probable cause?

    One of the individuals was appointed to some position or the other by Dubya.
    Federal judges. Like people with actual legal education and experience.

    Henry: you don't matter. You're nothing. You're no one. You need to understand that.
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    Re: Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Federal judges. Like people with actual legal education and experience.

    Henry: you don't matter. You're nothing. You're no one. You need to understand that.
    Some people here who know only what they are allowed to read in public blogs have determined that the FISA court is a rubber stamp and are outraged. When asked for their evidence ththat there was no probably cause used they refer back to their distrust of the court. It's circular logic.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad

    11 rejections out of 33,900 requests sounds like a rubber stamp.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Glenn Greenwald "FBI On A FISA Form For A Sample Is Writing Things Like Muhammad

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Federal judges. Like people with actual legal education and experience.

    Henry: you don't matter. You're nothing. You're no one. You need to understand that.
    Keep telling yourself that OWO.

    In the meantime, what proof is there that FISA blessed off on this?

    Just to keep things in perspective, Dubya admitted in front of Congress, on TV, that he and his had not complied with FISA, and that was way back when.

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