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    Re: Exclusive: Tsa allowing illegals to fly without verifiable id, says border patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Just telling you people have flown without ID... which was your contention... that YOU have not doesn't mean there are not exceptions to the picture ID rule.

    There isn't a law about picture IDs, it is a TSA rule that can and is wavered.

    The people are still security screened before boarding... personally I don't see why the Gubmint doesn't issue a picture ID since it is a rather quick procedure, but again not having one doesn't automatically disqualify you from flying...
    The fact that they are illegal we cannot prove who they actually are does disqualify them.
    the fact that the TSA refuses to follow it's own strict guidelines is just another disaster that this administration has been.

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    Re: Exclusive: Tsa allowing illegals to fly without verifiable id, says border patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    EXCLUSIVE: TSA Allowing Illegals to Fly Without Verifiable ID, Says Border Patrol Union



    Can anyone else verify this? While you kid is getting his nuts checked out and grannie is getting a cavity search, these ****ers are getting onboard without IDs.
    Go find this on a legitimate news site and its worthy of discussion. Until then you are asking us all to read your political porn and legitimize your fantasies.... No point in people getting our panties in a bunch about something it is likely not true.

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    Re: Exclusive: Tsa allowing illegals to fly without verifiable id, says border patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Fair enough. If you want to stick to the liberal game plan of screaming racism, so be it.

    With that plan in mind, in my opinion, the true racists in the crisis are liberals, who are using race as a political tool. You're screwing legal citizens who are in great need for jobs and opportunity in favor of a manufactured crisis created to bring about an election year gain.

    Liberals in this regard are presenting a new level of low, and the racist handle attached to them is being carved into the base of Lady Liberty.
    I don't think anyone opposing the women and children cares a bit about American jobs. There's too much support among conservatives for anti-immigrant and anti-worker policies. For instance, if you're willing to close the border to the women and children, are you also ready to close the border to foreign-made goods? They destroy American jobs, too.
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    Re: Exclusive: Tsa allowing illegals to fly without verifiable id, says border patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    I don't think anyone opposing the women and children cares a bit about American jobs. There's too much support among conservatives for anti-immigrant and anti-worker policies. For instance, if you're willing to close the border to the women and children, are you also ready to close the border to foreign-made goods? They destroy American jobs, too.
    yup... that bolded part is true.

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    Re: Exclusive: Tsa allowing illegals to fly without verifiable id, says border patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    The US is a country of immigrants. The vast, vast majority of us are descended from waves of immigrants who did little more than show-up -- just like the latest wave.
    How many of the 50,000 have you volunteered to take care of until their hearings?

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    Re: Exclusive: Tsa allowing illegals to fly without verifiable id, says border patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That's what is being reported. We already see illegal aliens from Texas landing at Lindbergh Field in San Diego. I doubt any of them have valid ID.

    I suppose Greyhound doesn't have enough buses to handle so many illegal aliens and there have been reports just before the July 4th weekend that some of the buses used were found to be contaminated with lice and other creepy things.

    U.S. citizens are required to have valid ID to fly while illegal aliens who have no valid ID to identify who they really are don't need valid ID to fly in America.

    Only in Obama's America.
    When you board a plane in Mexico they make you jump through a bunch of hoops just like the US.

    I am sure this loophole will be exploited before this is over.

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    Re: Exclusive: Tsa allowing illegals to fly without verifiable id, says border patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I'm perfectly aware. Which is my point. Immigration today is worlds away different from immigration that our forefathers experienced.
    So is the negative net worth of the US.

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    Re: Exclusive: Tsa allowing illegals to fly without verifiable id, says border patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I would suppose it would be correct to say we took in most immigrants but there were hundreds of thousands who were rejected entrance and were put back on the boat.

    Here's one rarely brought up.
    How many legal immigrants couldn't make it in America and gave up and returned to their former homeland ?

    Since there was no such thing as entitlements and welfare in America before WW ll, if you failed you were on your own. The choice was either returning home or resorting to crime.

    Since there were no records kept on how many immigrants returned to their original country of birth only estimates can be made by comparing census records and ships passenger manifest. It's estimated a few million did return to Europe.

    Back before 1965 an immigrant had to take personal responsibility for themselves. Immigration laws from 1945 to 1965 were strictly enforced and an immigrant couldn't receive any form of welfare be it federal, state or county for the first ten years being in America. Today 50% of all legal immigrants and illegal aliens are receiving at least one form of government assistance. Yes it's a violation of the law but nobody is enforcing our immigration laws.

    Today when an immigrant can't make it in America there's no reason to return home, the government (taxpayers) will step in and take care of them.

    During the 1800's and to the middle 1900's there were private immigrant societies set up to help immigrants who were having a hard time and also the churches but the government wasn't in the welfare business back then because the Constitution doesn't mention it.

    Bank of America was originally named the Bank of Italy. A bank established for Italian immigrants.
    That is an interesting point. Italian immigrants brought with them the way they did things in Sicily and because they knew nothing else, they formed the Mafia in the US.

    A lot of these people coming in know nothing but a broken system and a do anything to survive attitude. Now do you think the people from these countries today will just magically start following the law once they hit US soil? No they won't. As soon as these people are let loose in the population you can expect the crime rate to skyrocket.

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    Re: Exclusive: Tsa allowing illegals to fly without verifiable id, says border patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    wow way not to read the article. but what i expect from liberals anymore.

    no it isn't. they had money and resources they were not going to live on the government.

    these people have none of that. these people wouldn't have even been able to get a ticket in the steerage department. if they had been lucky enough then they would have had to pass rigorous testing as i showed you above.

    The fact that TSA is violating it's own rules is disconcerning.

    you are not even allowed to get a ticket without some form of identification let alone make it through the security check point without photo id or a passport.
    That is not necessarily true. These people have each paid thousands to coyotes to guide them to the US border. If they had that much earning power, why didn't they stay in their own country. The answer might be that somebody else paid their way, but the question is who would do that.

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    Re: Exclusive: Tsa allowing illegals to fly without verifiable id, says border patrol

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    That is an interesting point. Italian immigrants brought with them the way they did things in Sicily and because they knew nothing else, they formed the Mafia in the US.

    A lot of these people coming in know nothing but a broken system and a do anything to survive attitude. Now do you think the people from these countries today will just magically start following the law once they hit US soil? No they won't. As soon as these people are let loose in the population you can expect the crime rate to skyrocket.
    One thing about legal immigrants and illegal aliens from Mexico and Central America, where they come from the police are looked upon as being corrupt and the enemy. They bring those beliefs with them when they cross over the border.

    That's why most local law enforcement agencies say that most crime in Latino immigrant communities go unreported.

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