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Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

cpwill said:
Bush went to Katrina when it became evident that it was becoming a humanitarian disaster, which happened not because of the malfeasance of the federal government but rather the city and state governments.
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Non sense, it was all Bush's fault. So is this thing going on now. You know Obama is very clean.
 
Montecresto said:
We agree again. If you acknowledge the border problem is systemic, a decades old problem and aren't finger pointing at Obama, you're interested in solutions not partisan politics!
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It has long been a problem, and now it's accelerating to the point it must be taken seriously. If the government can't or won't perform it's essential functions, we need to change it. It is a partisan issue, but it surely doesn't fall into traditional partisan line. This is an illegal attempt to change the demographics of this country. There's plenty of blame to go around, but assessing blame does absolutely nothing to solve the problem. The problem will continue to grow until border security is addressed. It's not a political issue now. It's a survival issue.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Bring it, and plenty of money. Talk is cheap.
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Judging by other right-wingers I have known, I would probably have to beat you with a pool cue to get you to pay off.
 
Montecresto said:
That's not what I said!
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I know. I just want you to focus on the problem at hand, and not the politics surrounding it. It's not so hard to secure a border, in spite of all the protestations. When I say it's a partisan issue, I mean it is to those of us who like our country and want it to remain a sovereign entity. So it's not a left or right issue as tradition seems to require. Immigration reform is meaningless without secure borders. We saw this with Reagan, and this is the result.
 
CRUE CAB said:
I show with cash. Try me. Cowasloppy rider.
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Calm down Hustler. No one here gives a **** how many balls you like to play with.

BTW, what's a Cowasloppy? Is it a game you and your wife play with those balls?
 
Texmex said:
Calm down Hustler. No one here gives a **** how many balls you like to play with.

BTW, what's a Cowasloppy? Is it a game you and your wife play with those balls?
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Its a slam on Kawasaki, you must be too young to have ever heard it. I see you don't play pool, just run your mouth. Like most bike riders.
Care to get back on either points? Like I have full confidence I could take him or the fact that he was too chicken to go see the mess he allowed to happen. Then ignore.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Its a slam on Kawasaki, you must be too young to have ever heard it. I see you don't play pool, just run your mouth. Like most bike riders.
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I'm 62 years old. I guess you must be much older. I never heard it, but I do like my Kawasaki.
 
bubbabgone said:
A couple of things stood out as pure Obama yesterday in his statement in Dallas.

- He said Congress needs to learn to co-operate again like the old days by passing his legislation that he sent them. He didn't say work with him to make a mutually acceptable piece of legislation ... just passing what he sends them is being co-operative[/LIST].



- When he said what the 3 billion would be used for he said half would be used for increased border control and immigrant processing (I think it was) and the other half would be used for something or other. So what he did was lump border control funding with immigrant processing funding as half, while border control would actually only be around 5% to 10%.
Pure Obama wordplay.
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I'm more interested in knowing how much of that money he intends to use as a payoff to the Central American countries for cooperating with him on this. They get rid of problems, and we pay for it? Got it! :2mad:

Greetings, bubba. :2wave:
 
CRUE CAB said:
Yet you talk a game about beating people with a pool cue.
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When you are 62, you need every advantage you can get, besides, if you find yourself in a fair fight, you've made your first mistake.

And I talked about how some people bet and lose but don't pay. A pool cue can be handy in such a situation. Now, if you are a good pool player you don't have to worry. I haven't played a game of pool in twenty-five years, so I would probably lose.

Now as far as the OP is concerned. It doesn't matter what President Obama does, the right will complain regardless.
 
Texmex said:
When you are 62, you need every advantage you can get, besides, if you find yourself in a fair fight, you've made your first mistake.

And I talked about how some people bet and lose but don't pay. A pool cue can be handy in such a situation. Now, if you are a good pool player you don't have to worry. I haven't played a game of pool in twenty-five years, so I would probably lose.

Now as far as the OP is concerned. It doesn't matter what President Obama does, the right will complain regardless.
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Paid a lot of money for my cue, not fighting with it. Plus, any swipe I can take at King Obama I will. He is a disgrace.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Plus, any swipe I can take at King Obama I will.
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I'm not surprised. Obama could pull a child from a burning car, and you would bitch that he used the wrong door. I suggest you concentrate on pool, you suck at politics.
 
Texmex said:
I'm not surprised. Obama could pull a child from a burning car, and you would bitch that he used the wrong door. I suggest you concentrate on pool, you suck at politics.
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I am great at politics. I piss off liberals. That is my point in my debates. You know, the oh so tolerant liberals that just cant stick to the issue.
Plus, we both know he aint got the guts to pull a child from a burning car, so you can stop with the strawman arguments.
Clearly he did nothing while grown men that swore to defend this nation and constitution died fighting for their lives. While he fiddled then went to a fundraiser.
 
Here is a picture taken in the last week proving that Obama is not interested in photo ops...

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“This isn't theater. This is a problem,” he added. “I'm not interested in photo ops. Now let's get this picture of me playing pool out of the way so I can get out of this **** hole".
 
ttwtt78640 said:
That photo op would show that a great many of those children are not unaccompanied as we saw when they departed the busses/aircraft used to scatter them far and wide into the US interior at taxpayer expense. There seem to be plenty of "resources" available for that mission but none available to secure the border. These folks are not trying to sneak past our border security - they are seeking them out and "surrendering" to them as the final leg of their journey to the promised land.
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If the border wasn't secure, they'd be in the states on their own, not in captivity awaiting deportation trials. So when you see a prison full of prisoners, do you then suggest that full jails mean that the police aren't doing their jobs? You guys have truly gone off the deep end.
 
humbolt said:
I know. I just want you to focus on the problem at hand, and not the politics surrounding it. It's not so hard to secure a border, in spite of all the protestations. When I say it's a partisan issue, I mean it is to those of us who like our country and want it to remain a sovereign entity. So it's not a left or right issue as tradition seems to require. Immigration reform is meaningless without secure borders. We saw this with Reagan, and this is the result.
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humbolt, you and I are in agreement on this. It is a left/right issue, only because of partisanship, but it isn't a left/right issue in reality. It's a systemic problem that no party, president or congress has ever addressed, seriously. It's the reason why that is, that you and I seem to disagree.
 
cpwill said:
Bush went to Katrina when it became evident that it was becoming a humanitarian disaster, which happened not because of the malfeasance of the federal government but rather the city and state governments.
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When he did finally show up, he told the horse trainer that he was "doing a heck of a job" although he wasn't! The point being, well there's two. The unsecured southern border predates Obama's birth, and will remain such after his presidency for reasons you don't want to admit. And secondly, partisans always accuse presidents of being AWOL from a crisis, even when they really aren't. Btw, this, not to be mistaken for an excuse for Obama not securing our border, he too has failed to do that, as every president that has preceded him!
 
Montecresto said:
humbolt, you and I are in agreement on this. It is a left/right issue, only because of partisanship, but it isn't a left/right issue in reality. It's a systemic problem that no party, president or congress has ever addressed, seriously. It's the reason why that is, that you and I seem to disagree.
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Probably. First secure the border, and then all manner of immigration reform can be discussed. Until then, I refuse to speculate on the exact nature of any reforms that could be contemplated. I really don't care who's dancing to what political tune here or who exercises what influence. The first step is securing the border and it always has been for many of us. Business can go pound sand. If they can't make a profit legally, too bad for them.
 
Montecresto said:
When he did finally show up, he told the horse trainer that he was "doing a heck of a job" although he wasn't!
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Sure. And then he stayed on the ground to help organize the effort, coordinate the national response with the governor and mayor, hand out water bottles, etc. You can certainly say that he wasn't as effective as he could have been, but at least he was on it. He didn't take a look at a humanitarian crises and then decide he would rather go shoot pool and drink beer. He didn't go to Louisiana and then instead of heading south to New Orleans go to a fundraiser instead.

The point being, well there's two. The unsecured southern border predates Obama's birth, and will remain such after his presidency for reasons you don't want to admit.
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:lol: i find that interesting, given that we have not even discussed that topic before. The southern border can be secured, certainly better than this. To an impossible absolute, sure, no. Not even North Korea has that. But far, far better than what we are doing now.

However, what we are talking about HERE is the current humanitarian crises involving these tens of thousands of kids here in part at least because of this presidents' policies.

And secondly, partisans always accuse presidents of being AWOL from a crisis, even when they really aren't
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Sure. Here is the problem with trying to apply that formula in Obama's defense - the man is legitimately not there, not interested in going there, and has no interest whatsoever in pushing politically for any kind of an actual solution other than "give us more money so we can settle these kids in the US and perpetuate the problem". Calling Bush AWOL in the aftermath of Katrina required leaning on some kind of metaphysical "AWOL" status given that he was actually physically there working. Obama is actually AWOL.
 
Obama is sending a message to all terrorists, "If any of you that are not convinced you can sneak in to America and kill us, just watch my lack of concern with our borders". Watch what percent of the money appropriated for border security actually goes to "security". Be aware alot of the money goes to housing, feeding and administrative work to get the people homes and shelters, not actual security to prevent intruders.
 
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