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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And Bush was in Arizona eating cake while Katrina was blowing up. There's been little good leadership in America.
    Because Hurricanes are for Presidents to deal with, not Mayors, Governors....
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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Some people, will believe anything they are told as long as they want to know what they are told.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Sure. And then he stayed on the ground to help organize the effort, coordinate the national response with the governor and mayor, hand out water bottles, etc. You can certainly say that he wasn't as effective as he could have been, but at least he was on it. He didn't take a look at a humanitarian crises and then decide he would rather go shoot pool and drink beer. He didn't go to Louisiana and then instead of heading south to New Orleans go to a fundraiser instead.



    i find that interesting, given that we have not even discussed that topic before. The southern border can be secured, certainly better than this. To an impossible absolute, sure, no. Not even North Korea has that. But far, far better than what we are doing now.

    However, what we are talking about HERE is the current humanitarian crises involving these tens of thousands of kids here in part at least because of this presidents' policies.



    Sure. Here is the problem with trying to apply that formula in Obama's defense - the man is legitimately not there, not interested in going there, and has no interest whatsoever in pushing politically for any kind of an actual solution other than "give us more money so we can settle these kids in the US and perpetuate the problem". Calling Bush AWOL in the aftermath of Katrina required leaning on some kind of metaphysical "AWOL" status given that he was actually physically there working. Obama is actually AWOL.
    I agree that this presidents policies are exacerbating a long running problem. A problem no prior president, party or congress has had the will to deal with. Namely because, the secured borders that you and I want, haven't, and won't materialize because big business isn't interested in secure borders, and unfortunately, both parties pander to big business!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    I guess this photo op better fit the president's agenda.

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Obama is sending a message to all terrorists, "If any of you that are not convinced you can sneak in to America and kill us, just watch my lack of concern with our borders". Watch what percent of the money appropriated for border security actually goes to "security". Be aware alot of the money goes to housing, feeding and administrative work to get the people homes and shelters, not actual security to prevent intruders.
    Been that way for sometime. Secure borders are NO administrations priority.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Some people, will believe anything they are told as long as they want to know what they are told.
    Feel free to present the data that dsproves this. Show your work.
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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I agree that this presidents policies are exacerbating a long running problem. A problem no prior president, party or congress has had the will to deal with. Namely because, the secured borders that you and I want, haven't, and won't materialize because big business isn't interested in secure borders, and unfortunately, both parties pander to big business!
    no conflict there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Feel free to present the data that dsproves this. Show your work.
    How can I when you believe numbers from an administration bereft of honest information?


    But figures recently unearthed by a federal lawsuit in Texas cast serious doubt on the administration’s deportation claims. The number of deportations appears to have declined significantly during the president’s term in office.

    Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies for the Center for Immigration Studies, has analyzed a set of largely unpublished official statistics on immigration-enforcement activity over the past five years. Earlier this month, Vaughan testified in court on behalf of a group of U.S. Immigration and Customs (ICE) agents who are suing the administration over its use of “prosecutorial discretion” in dictating how immigration law is enforced — or not enforced. The agents are seeking an injunction against a series of policy directives from ICE and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that were designed to regulate the extent to which ICE officers could initiate deportation proceedings for illegal immigrants in their custody.

    In her testimony on April 8, Vaughan noted that, contrary to the administration’s claims, the number of illegal-immigrant removals has dropped 40 percent since June 2011, when ICE director John Morton issued the first of several directives outlining significant changes to the agency’s enforcement policies. “There has been a significant decline in enforcement activity as measured by the number of removals,” Vaughan says.
    The Deportation Lie | National Review Online

    "If you are a run-of-the-mill immigrant here illegally, your odds of getting deported are close to zero — it's just highly unlikely to happen," John Sandweg, until recently the acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said in an interview.

    Even when immigration officials want to deport someone who already has settled in the country, doing so is "virtually impossible" because of a lengthy backlog in the immigration courts, Sandweg said. Once people who have no prior removals or convictions are placed in deportation proceedings, actually removing them from the country can take six years or more in some jurisdictions, Sandweg said.
    High deportation figures are misleading*-*Los Angeles Times
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    feel free to present the data that dsproves this. Show your work.
    it has been exposed that the data you provided, also included in those numbers illegals who were turned back at the border...

    Those people were not deported.

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