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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Here is a picture taken in the last week proving that Obama is not interested in photo ops...

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Here is a picture taken in the last week proving that Obama is not interested in photo ops...

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    Weak bridge.

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    “This isn't theater. This is a problem,” he added. “I'm not interested in photo ops. Now let's get this picture of me playing pool out of the way so I can get out of this **** hole".

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That photo op would show that a great many of those children are not unaccompanied as we saw when they departed the busses/aircraft used to scatter them far and wide into the US interior at taxpayer expense. There seem to be plenty of "resources" available for that mission but none available to secure the border. These folks are not trying to sneak past our border security - they are seeking them out and "surrendering" to them as the final leg of their journey to the promised land.
    If the border wasn't secure, they'd be in the states on their own, not in captivity awaiting deportation trials. So when you see a prison full of prisoners, do you then suggest that full jails mean that the police aren't doing their jobs? You guys have truly gone off the deep end.
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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I know. I just want you to focus on the problem at hand, and not the politics surrounding it. It's not so hard to secure a border, in spite of all the protestations. When I say it's a partisan issue, I mean it is to those of us who like our country and want it to remain a sovereign entity. So it's not a left or right issue as tradition seems to require. Immigration reform is meaningless without secure borders. We saw this with Reagan, and this is the result.
    humbolt, you and I are in agreement on this. It is a left/right issue, only because of partisanship, but it isn't a left/right issue in reality. It's a systemic problem that no party, president or congress has ever addressed, seriously. It's the reason why that is, that you and I seem to disagree.
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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Bush went to Katrina when it became evident that it was becoming a humanitarian disaster, which happened not because of the malfeasance of the federal government but rather the city and state governments.
    When he did finally show up, he told the horse trainer that he was "doing a heck of a job" although he wasn't! The point being, well there's two. The unsecured southern border predates Obama's birth, and will remain such after his presidency for reasons you don't want to admit. And secondly, partisans always accuse presidents of being AWOL from a crisis, even when they really aren't. Btw, this, not to be mistaken for an excuse for Obama not securing our border, he too has failed to do that, as every president that has preceded him!
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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Here is a picture taken in the last week proving that Obama is not interested in photo ops...

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    Considering that this is being used to weaken the presidents border policy position, it hardly seems like a photo opportunity for him.
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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    humbolt, you and I are in agreement on this. It is a left/right issue, only because of partisanship, but it isn't a left/right issue in reality. It's a systemic problem that no party, president or congress has ever addressed, seriously. It's the reason why that is, that you and I seem to disagree.
    Probably. First secure the border, and then all manner of immigration reform can be discussed. Until then, I refuse to speculate on the exact nature of any reforms that could be contemplated. I really don't care who's dancing to what political tune here or who exercises what influence. The first step is securing the border and it always has been for many of us. Business can go pound sand. If they can't make a profit legally, too bad for them.

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    When he did finally show up, he told the horse trainer that he was "doing a heck of a job" although he wasn't!
    Sure. And then he stayed on the ground to help organize the effort, coordinate the national response with the governor and mayor, hand out water bottles, etc. You can certainly say that he wasn't as effective as he could have been, but at least he was on it. He didn't take a look at a humanitarian crises and then decide he would rather go shoot pool and drink beer. He didn't go to Louisiana and then instead of heading south to New Orleans go to a fundraiser instead.

    The point being, well there's two. The unsecured southern border predates Obama's birth, and will remain such after his presidency for reasons you don't want to admit.
    i find that interesting, given that we have not even discussed that topic before. The southern border can be secured, certainly better than this. To an impossible absolute, sure, no. Not even North Korea has that. But far, far better than what we are doing now.

    However, what we are talking about HERE is the current humanitarian crises involving these tens of thousands of kids here in part at least because of this presidents' policies.

    And secondly, partisans always accuse presidents of being AWOL from a crisis, even when they really aren't
    Sure. Here is the problem with trying to apply that formula in Obama's defense - the man is legitimately not there, not interested in going there, and has no interest whatsoever in pushing politically for any kind of an actual solution other than "give us more money so we can settle these kids in the US and perpetuate the problem". Calling Bush AWOL in the aftermath of Katrina required leaning on some kind of metaphysical "AWOL" status given that he was actually physically there working. Obama is actually AWOL.

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Obama is sending a message to all terrorists, "If any of you that are not convinced you can sneak in to America and kill us, just watch my lack of concern with our borders". Watch what percent of the money appropriated for border security actually goes to "security". Be aware alot of the money goes to housing, feeding and administrative work to get the people homes and shelters, not actual security to prevent intruders.

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