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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Evidently you are not sure of it yourself.

    In japan bowing is a sign of respect to the other persons authority. world leaders acknowledging another leader a slight nod of the head or even a slight bow is enough. the bow is to match the other persons. the lower you bow it shows that you are beneath the station of the person you are addressing.

    obama didn't know what he was doing and his deep bow could have been seen as offensive if not highly ignorant.
    And you don't go giving neck rubs to foreign leaders like Dubya did to Angela Merkel, either. And you don't go upchucking in your host's lap at an official state dinner like Bush Sr. did, either. Here's a list of famous presidential faux pas - and it tells me that (gasp!) Obama's HUMAN and makes mistakes like the rest of us humans. Get over it.
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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Look at the Esienhower photo again, that's not bowing at the waist.
    And I'll show you what I did the other guy - a list of presidential diplomatic faux pas...which tells me Obama's in pretty good company.
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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Of course you didn't have a problem because G.W. Bush gave up playing golf while American troops were still in Iraq.

    You're getting old Glen, short time memory loss.
    I knew about that - and I figured you'd bring it up. Two months after he 'quit' golf, he was caught golfing again...and it was only after he was caught that he actually quit.

    And if you'll recall, most people - including veterans - took his "sacrifice for solidarity" with a dim view, indeed.
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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tangmo View Post
    While Rick Perry is doing photo ops imitating a sulking 6 year old, he's also ignoring several initiatives that are underway, so let's get some facts into this thread, specifically as follows:

    Democrats in congress want increased funding and resources for the Pentagon's Southern Command and the State Department’s Central American Regional Security Initiative.

    For fiscal 2015, the Obama administration requested $130 million for regional security, which covers seven countries. Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson has said an additional $161.5 million will be provided for CARSI programs to “respond to the region’s most pressing security and governance challenges.”

    President Obama’s request for foreign assistance to Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador totals more than $280 million in fiscal 2015.

    After Vice President Joe Biden met in Guatemala last month with leaders from that country, Mexico, El Salvador and Honduras to address the wave of children crossing the U.S.-Mexico border, he announced $9.6 million in new assistance to Central American governments for repatriation of their citizens, improving security and preventing crime, as well as a series of USAID programs. Under USAID, $40 million dollars will go to Guatemala and $25 million to El Salvador. Under CARSI, an additional $18.5 million will go to Honduras.

    After 9/11, Bush pushed immigration agents to take on more of a national security role, eventually folding them into the Department of Homeland Security in 2003. Spending on federal immigration enforcement spiked by 300 percent between fiscal 2002 and 2013, according to the Migration Policy Institute, and has now reached roughly $17 billion per year.

    The Obama administration has conducted more deportations in 6 years than the President George W. Bush administration did in 8, and has effectively transformed the U.S.-Mexico border. CBP has conducted over 700 missions as part of its drone program.

    Additionally, National Guard troops deployed to the border in 2010 to assist with monitoring continue to operate in that capacity.

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    Top General Says Mexico Border Security Now
    I may be missing something here, but why do we have to pay those countries anything to take their kids back? It seems that we should be sending them a bill for what it's costing us to take care of them! They entered our Country illegally! And with Obama sending these kids all over the country as fast as he can, how do we find them to return them to wherever they came from? Does every Country in the world that wants millions of dollars from us enjoy scamming us to get it, and why do we allow them to do it - unless this was the plan all along? :

    Greetings, Tangmo.

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    I knew about that - and I figured you'd bring it up. Two months after he 'quit' golf, he was caught golfing again...and it was only after he was caught that he actually quit.

    And if you'll recall, most people - including veterans - took his "sacrifice for solidarity" with a dim view, indeed.
    I was unaware G.W. cheated and got caught.

    A President sacrificing playing golf is a no biggie unless it was Eisenhower, Ford, Clinton or Obama.

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    If the President had gone to the border, GOPea brains would be playin the "photo-op" card .
    You have a lame excuse for everything.
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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    If the President had gone to the border, GOPea brains would be playin the "photo-op" card .
    A smart and competent President would have gone to the border without the press following him around.

    Bush use to visit military hospitals and military bases with no cameras around.

    Even Clinton to gain respect from the military use to mingle with the troops with no cameras around.

    Obama won't even think about visiting the troops unless there were a few dozens cameras around. The Obama administration even went further when Obama would do a photo op in Afghanistan, they would give a cameras to every soldier. I **** you not, that's what they did.

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Back peddling!! The WH said from the beginning that the trip had three purposes. One was to meet Perry on the tarmac. Perry preferred a set down and Obama complied. As for fundraising, leave that alone, you only look stupid. Every president fundraises. The oppossition party ALWAYS thinks he's doing it at the wrong time. Both sides do this. There's a problem on our border, an old problem with a new twist to be sure. But if you're just learning about it this year, that's a problem, too! No president, congress or party has ever secured the border between Mexico and the United States. It is what it is.
    Obama bailed on the WH and attended a fundraiser while Benghazi was ongoing. He went to 3 fundraisers in the same state as an ongoing incident which HE describes as a crisis is occurring, then bailed to Colorado to be with the boys and shoot some pool.

    Dood is a clown.

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I may be missing something here, but why do we have to pay those countries anything to take their kids back? It seems that we should be sending them a bill for what it's costing us to take care of them! They entered our Country illegally! And with Obama sending these kids all over the country as fast as he can, how do we find them to return them to wherever they came from? Does every Country in the world that wants millions of dollars from us enjoy scamming us to get it, and why do we allow them to do it - unless this was the plan all along? :

    Greetings, Tangmo.

    Hi polgara

    Throwing a bunch of our money at those corrupt and incompetent bozos down there is not something I'm necessarily advocating or even supporting, it's just the fact of the matter that that's what is being done and it's something I can understand given those countries are poor and would find it hard to themselves cash up even to get their own kids back, assuming they wanted them back the future notwithstanding.

    It simply points out, as I'd be confident you could appreciate either way, the government is doing something tangible and that is likely to be an effective incentive to get those governments and societies to be receptive to the repatriation of their own youth.

    I'd much rather the governments there themselves paid for the repatriation of their own children, and I believe Washington too would much prefer to see it happen that way. Maybe - and it's only a maybe - if the governments there had to pay for the repatriation the governments and the societies there might think twice to instead spend a couple of bucks of their own to straighten up their own southern borders to stop the flow and transit of these kids.

    But then I wouldn't expect much from the governments or societies down there that would be responsible, moral, just.
    Triumph of the Will eh. Think again or just think.

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And you don't go giving neck rubs to foreign leaders like Dubya did to Angela Merkel, either. And you don't go upchucking in your host's lap at an official state dinner like Bush Sr. did, either. Here's a list of famous presidential faux pas - and it tells me that (gasp!) Obama's HUMAN and makes mistakes like the rest of us humans. Get over it.
    I am not the one ranting about it you are.

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