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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Obama was also an incompetent community organizer. The only accomplishment Obama achieved as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago was registering blacks as Democrats by promising free stuff.
    Obama convinced a majority of Americans to vote for him, TWICE, Now go beat that APACHE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Obama goes down to raise hundreds of thousands for campaigning while Democrats sit around criticizing money in politics.
    Everybody criticizes money in politics, and then they all get out and do fundraising. Republicans bitch about federal spending, and then Reagan triples the ND, and Bush 2 doubles it. Partisans, by very nature, are two faced and hypocritical!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Link that shows those alleged facts?
    It's about photo-ops. Do you really care, or are you just insulted that I dared offer alternate facts to the RW narrative?

    Should President Obama Visit The Texas Border? : It's All Politics : NPR

    The Republican, thought to be interested in another run for president, has insisted Obama should visit the border.
    Why Today’s Obama-Rick Perry Meeting Will Be Awkward - ABC News

    Perry Demanded An Obama Border Trip (Obama Refused)
    Perry also insisted that Obama should visit the border during his Texas trip.
    “If the president of the United States is really serious about securing that border, we can show him how to do that… If he doesn’t come to the border, it’s a real reflection of his lack of concern of what’s really going on there,” the governor said on Fox News Wednesday.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Obama convinced a majority of Americans to vote for him, TWICE, Now go beat that APACHE.
    The dumbing down of America is the only answer to why it happened.

    There's also the "I don't want to be called a racist" factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The dumbing down of America is the only answer to why it happened.

    There's also the "I don't want to be called a racist" factor.
    There's been no president with a lower IQ than B-2, that didn't stop americans for voting for him twice either. By your logic, Americans have been sufficiently dumbed down, there ought not be another republican president.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    It works both ways. The houses need to respect the politics of each other and pass bills in substantial form that can work through the other side. Why, for example, has the house not taken up the immigration bill, which could pass both houses and be signed into law?

    Blame is with the electorate that has elected extreme members into the body and the electorates tolerance for them working with one another. The so-called news channels that crank out party rhetoric 24/7 in an attempt to fan the flames of their audience (and dumb them down) is also a part of this machine that has allowed all of this to happen. As a nation, we need to find more reasonable leadership (in all branches of government)... as our current trend, if left unchecked, will lead to the demise of our system of government.... but, that is another matter.
    Let me boil it down instead of answering with equal areas of the Senate bills not taken up.... we need an adult in the room in Washington. Boehner, Reid, nor Obama are that adult.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    There's been no president with a lower IQ than B-2, that didn't stop americans for voting for him twice either. By your logic, Americans have been sufficiently dumbed down, there ought not be another republican president.
    So what's Obama's IQ ?

    You are aware that IQ test were called racist by the left and blacks were no longer required to take IQ test by the time Obama was in high school and probably never took an IQ test in his life.

    As for G.W. Bush, one can translate the former military GCT into a IQ level and Bush's GCT was higher than John Kerry's GCT score.

    So you're making **** up.

    Also everyone who had to deal with G.W. Bush when he was POTUS said Bush was smart, that he asked questions. Smart people are always asking questions. But there are some not so smart people who think asking questions is stupid.

    Bush went to Ivy League colleges and earned grades. Obama can't say the same. In the private sector Bush was a businessman. In the private sector Obama was a community organizer.

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Sure, but lets face it - the House isn't going to pass anything right now unless it burnishes their re-election campaign. They continually pass bills that won't ever pass in the Senate, and they know it. And what happens when they even think about compromise - they lose primaries to TPers (ask Eric Cantor).

    Republicans aren't going to work with Obama because doing so loses them their job. And Democrats don't want to help them ram through the TPs agenda (surprise!).

    You can thank gerrymandering for the dysfunction that is Congress.
    Yes yes... you're taking the Democratic side again and whining about it. I know... we ALL know. At least show a shred of ability to understand it's Reid AND Bohner, and Obama is either incapable or unwilling to be the adult leader he was elected to be, roll up his sleaves and negotiate to a path forward. If you CAN'T do that without yet again, pointing to those evil Republicans, it's no wonder nothing gets done.

    And by the way, the US system is set up to work just this way - if the President and Congress do not set aside their differences, great or small, then nothing gets done, and those trying to bypass one or the other should be held accountable for those illegal acts.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Yes yes... you're taking the Democratic side again and whining about it. I know... we ALL know. At least show a shred of ability to understand it's Reid AND Bohner, and Obama is either incapable or unwilling to be the adult leader he was elected to be, roll up his sleaves and negotiate to a path forward. If you CAN'T do that without yet again, pointing to those evil Republicans, it's no wonder nothing gets done.

    And by the way, the US system is set up to work just this way - if the President and Congress do not set aside their differences, great or small, then nothing gets done, and those trying to bypass one or the other should be held accountable for those illegal acts.
    It's not the Democratic side, its reality. The senate has already passed bipartisan immigration reform. The Whitehouse supports it. A majority in the house support it. The problem is what what the problem has been since 2010: a majority of Republicans are either tea party members or live in districts where they are in danger of being primaries by tea party types. They're a small but vocal minority who just so happen to hold enough votes to deny Bohner the speakership. If Boehner were to put reform up for a vote, they'd revolt, install some whackjob speaker and the house would go about shutting the government down, defaulting on our national debt, and cratering the US economy.

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    Re: Obama: No interest in border 'photo op'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Yes yes... you're taking the Democratic side again and whining about it. I know... we ALL know. At least show a shred of ability to understand it's Reid AND Bohner, and Obama is either incapable or unwilling to be the adult leader he was elected to be, roll up his sleaves and negotiate to a path forward. If you CAN'T do that without yet again, pointing to those evil Republicans, it's no wonder nothing gets done.

    And by the way, the US system is set up to work just this way - if the President and Congress do not set aside their differences, great or small, then nothing gets done, and those trying to bypass one or the other should be held accountable for those illegal acts.
    I understand it's both of them. The point is, it doesn't matter. You're taking the R side again, and whining about "Oh boo hoo, Reid and Obama won't cave to all of our demands."


    There's no negotiating with the TP though. ANY hint of compromise and you're getting primaried. (a la Cantor). Not surprisingly, R's don't want that. There's also no upside to the D's to cave to them. For one thing they get nothing, and for another the TP isn't that popular in their districts (or they wouldn't be there).


    Right now, there"s no law governing the specific situation on the border. Now assuming that nothing's going to get passed by both houses of Congress anytime soon (which it isn't)....


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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