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    Re: MSNBC’s Wagner Grills White House Spox: Why Won’t Obama Visit the Border?

    Most great artists don't view their own work. Hopefully sarcasm is coming through.

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    Re: MSNBC’s Wagner Grills White House Spox: Why Won’t Obama Visit the Border?

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    Re: MSNBC’s Wagner Grills White House Spox: Why Won’t Obama Visit the Border?

    He went to Sandy Hook and look how effective that was. This idea of a president going to the scene of whatever is nothing but political hacking. Bush did not go to New Orleans when it nearly sank. So what! What could he have done other than be on the nightly news? You see fool s like Obama hugging the parents of the soldier than ran from duty, was that for the soldier, the parents or was that for him? What could he do at the border other than a photo op of him looking pointlessly at the horizon over the landscape of Texas? "Oh, see how hev really cares". pffffft

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    Re: MSNBC’s Wagner Grills White House Spox: Why Won’t Obama Visit the Border?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbcs-wa...it-the-border/

    My question to you all, is why can't this spox just say, "He's not going because it wouldn't do any good?" Doesn't she realize just how fake she looks when she just can't come out and say what everyone knows is true? Is it because they are worried that it might show he doesn't care? All these critics of Obama who think he should go to the border... just what do you expect him to do? Pick the kids up in Air Force One and drop them back into Mexico?

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    The spokeswoman could have answered it better. I like how Beaudreaux addressed it in his post. I guess symbolism is very important to some people, but not to me. I don't think he should be forced to go. For what purpose? He knows what's going on there. His appearance will only cause chaos in an already chaotic atmosphere.

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    Re: MSNBC’s Wagner Grills White House Spox: Why Won’t Obama Visit the Border?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The spokeswoman could have answered it better. I like how Beaudreaux addressed it in his post. I guess symbolism is very important to some people, but not to me. I don't think he should be forced to go. For what purpose? He knows what's going on there. His appearance will only cause chaos in an already chaotic atmosphere.
    I think a photo op of President Obama and Governor Rick Perry flying to the border and visiting with the border guards would be worth a million dollars when it comes to his request for 3.7 billion. Remember the president and Governor Christie walking around in New Jersey after the hurricane. That was possibly worth 2 million votes from the indies who were going to vote for Romney.

    Indies yearn for cooperation between parties, the Obama, Christie walk showed them cooperation. Sure a Perry/Obama trip to the border would be pure symbolism, but for a certain segment of the population symbolism plays a huge part in their politics. The perception could arise that the president really doesn't care about the border, that he only really cares about the fund raising aspect. His priority, fund raising over the border crisis.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: MSNBC’s Wagner Grills White House Spox: Why Won’t Obama Visit the Border?

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Yes, they are copying Clinton, who copied Kennedy, who probably copied it from someone else, possibly Satan.
    Right. And if I remember correctly, Satan got his legislative start in the 1980's.

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    Re: MSNBC’s Wagner Grills White House Spox: Why Won’t Obama Visit the Border?

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Right. And if I remember correctly, Satan got his legislative start in the 1980's.
    he has a great GOTV organization

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    Re: MSNBC’s Wagner Grills White House Spox: Why Won’t Obama Visit the Border?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    After the grief that Bush got for flying over the Katrina damage, I would have guessed that the President would not be so tone deaf on the issue of being seen. Its all fluff, but sometimes fluff is important.
    LOL So you won't mind the cost of the visit and the fact that men will be taken off the border to greet him and shake his hand? Fat chance. I can see the outrage already. There are no Americans in danger at the border and it has nothing to do with failing to send in FEMA during a natural disaster. That is what the outrage against Bush was about.

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    Re: MSNBC’s Wagner Grills White House Spox: Why Won’t Obama Visit the Border?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    Why would either going or not going be an outrage? Maybe the loons will squawk, but all he has to do is wake up for that to happen. In this case, there's an argument to be made for either choice he makes.

    The real outrage is that it's gotten to this point, and we've still basically done nothing but shuffle these people around in buses. As I wrote in my post that your post followed, both Congress and the White House share in any **** storm that results from this.

    This is a real crisis. Not some right wing conspiracy or left wing debacle, and should be dealt with by both parties working together.

    This should at the very least make them both give a little and do the right damned thing for a change.

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