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They are refugees. The whole "they're gonna be here forever!" meme is paranoia at its finest.

No, they are not. They are illegal aliens we never should have taken custody of in the first place. They should be held on the other side of the border. Hell, let Mexico deal with them.
 
No, they are not. They are illegal aliens we never should have taken custody of in the first place. They should be held on the other side of the border. Hell, let Mexico deal with them.

They are human ****ing beings fleeing violence. But to hell with 'em, amirite?
 
I'd hardly call LinkedIn "personal info", if anyone can login and see her profile.

Want my facebook account? Go ahead.

Then again, I think you're starting to realize not all illegal immigrants look like farmers crossing a wired fence so you have to dodge the evidence I give.

Suddenly its different when you see ex-illegal immigrants as an actual human.

It's a lot easier to hate "illegal aliens" than human beings.

Put a few of them up at your crib, then.
 
what should we do with them?

Shelter them temporarily. Keep close watch on them. Send them back when it's safe to do so. I just don't like the idea of turning our backs on people who are legitimately fleeing rampant violence.
 
They are human ****ing beings fleeing violence. But to hell with 'em, amirite?

Wrong and wrong. You want to frame the issue from a personal level when you know quite well it isn't, it's a group issue of governments and nations. The same use of framing is peppered throughout all the open borders propo.
 
Shelter them temporarily. Keep close watch on them. Send them back when it's safe to do so. I just don't like the idea of turning our backs on people who are legitimately fleeing rampant violence.


There is no declared war in any of the South American nations. There has ALWAYS been elements of rampant violence there. We are not their spillover state.
 
Wrong and wrong. You want to frame the issue from a personal level when you know quite well it isn't, it's a group issue of governments and nations. The same use of framing is peppered throughout all the open borders propo.

the governments of honduras, el salvador, and Guatemala have no control over the chaos caused by gang violence and corruption. the situation for families living in those countries is so bad that they choose to send their children away in order for the kids to have a better chance of survival.
 
Shelter them temporarily. Keep close watch on them. Send them back when it's safe to do so. I just don't like the idea of turning our backs on people who are legitimately fleeing rampant violence.

I think if they were legitimately fleeing violence, their parents would accompany them... I think the parents are sending them in hopes of them becoming anchor babies of sorts.


I have no problem with temporary housing ( we don't need to be spending millions or billions when we have plenty of GP tents available). provided it's actually temporary
at some point, though, folks are going to have to be "un-humanitarian" and kick 'em out... open borders aren't going to happen, and you can only stave off the inevitable for so long.


as for "send em back when it's safe"... that won't fly.... you're basically saying " give them citizenship as an award for breaking our laws".
central America has been a ****hole for decades and decades and decades... with China and Russia now converging there to exploit the people and resources.., it will probably get worse, rather than better.
 
Repeating it ad nauseum doesn't make it true.

Denying it ad nauseum doesn't make it false.

No, it wasn't. It's the paranoid delusion of the tin foil hat brigade. "Leftists hate America" has been the right-wing meme for at least the last decade and a half, probably longer.

The actions of the current President and his stooges, and the vehemence with which wrongists defend him and his actions, proves it to be true.
 
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the governments of honduras, el salvador, and Guatemala have no control over the chaos caused by gang violence and corruption. the situation for families living in those countries is so bad that they choose to send their children away in order for the kids to have a better chance of survival.

you should have Sarah McLachlan singing in the background for you :lol:
 
Shelter them temporarily. Keep close watch on them. Send them back when it's safe to do so. I just don't like the idea of turning our backs on people who are legitimately fleeing rampant violence.

Right. Save the violence for American citizens who are rightfully here; and who are trying to defend their homes and their communities from a flood of invading foreign criminals aided by the very same government whose duty it is to keep these criminals out.
 
the governments of honduras, el salvador, and Guatemala have no control over the chaos caused by gang violence and corruption. the situation for families living in those countries is so bad that they choose to send their children away in order for the kids to have a better chance of survival.

Their problem; not ours.
 
Right. Save the violence for American citizens who are rightfully here; and who are trying to defend their homes and their communities from a flood of invading foreign criminals aided by the very same government whose duty it is to keep these criminals out.

WHAT "violence"?
 
They are human ****ing beings fleeing violence. But to hell with 'em, amirite?

What violence are they fleeing? I thought they said they were trying to find their parents, according to the MSM. Which one of these stories is true, if either one is?

Greetings, Kobie. :2wave:
 
What violence are they fleeing? I thought they said they were trying to find their parents, according to the MSM. Which one of these stories is true, if either one is?

Greetings, Kobie. :2wave:

The young children are being targeted by gangs (some are gang raped if they don't join up) and some of them come to the U.S. to find their parents.

So I would say both stories are true.

Howdy Polgara :2wave:
 
"Americans who try to do the job Obama refuses to do."

Yeah let's take the law into our own hands!!!

*Looks at Zimmerman case*

On second thought, **** that.

Update: APACHERAT is still the most biased guy in the world that even Republicans can't stand him
What has he done to correct this? Jack ****

You say " lets take the law into our own hands " as though it is a bad thing.

Explain precisely who should enforce the law if the government will not.
 
No ****.

What the xenophobes are failing to understand is that these are not "illegal aliens" in the traditional sense, coming here to work cheap and send money home. These are refugees from a war zone. We need to do what we can to get our hemisphere in order before things get worse.

Illegal aliens have come here in all shapes sizes ages and genders for many reasons there is not really a traditional one.

It is not " our hemisphere and Mexico can get their own house in order we do not need the refugees. Apparently many do not want them in their own community and that wish should be respected by the government which is ignoring the law it is supposed to enforce.

I believe the decleration of Independence states some accusations about the King not enforcing laws for the well being of Americans. If it was justifiable to rebel against THAT government for that and other reasons what is so different about this situation?
 
No, vile is saying that you only care if you agree to give up rights, liberties, accept the destruction of the southern border and don't say a peep as your hard earned money is going to pay for people who BROKE THE ****ING LAW to get here. What's VILE is insinuation that it's somehow the American tax payers responsibility for the welfare of non-Americans that are being coached into gaming the system, and that coaching is for a singular purpose; political power. This **** ain't a ****ing word game there guy, it's a real no kidding threat to the country, all for POLITICAL GAIN. Obama and Co./ don't care about these kids, their families, they only care about building voters. They got people like you hoodwinked into thinking this bull**** going in a "good thing" and we're "helping people". Man, ya'll so into the koolaide you can't see the forest for the trees.

I hope they settle thousands of these children in San Antonio. It will give you a chance to show some of that compassion conservatives like to brag about.
 
With the encouragement and assistance of a white house that sees them not as lost souls needing love but a potential voting bloc.

That's what right-wing nuts fear. More democratic voters. They hate abortion and love children, but just not these children. After all, they come from working class people who will probably see through their right-wing BS and actually become democrats.
 
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