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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah well they shouldn't be burning OUR Flags on that Fence. Were there any Vets down there?

    Id be surprised if there werent. Im reminded of a few years back when they did all the parades, with mexican flags, and demanding amnesty in spanish.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Id be surprised if there werent. Im reminded of a few years back when they did all the parades, with mexican flags, and demanding amnesty in spanish.


    Worse is New Mexico.....they are able to get thru in waves.

    Then Last week on June 27th in Arizona.




    Border Patrol agents were fired upon by Mexican military helicopters that traveled across the border early Thursday morning, reports News 4 Tucson.

    According to Art del Cueto, Border Patrol Tucson Sector union president, sometime between 12 am and 6 pm at least one helicopter unexpectedly crossed into U.S. territory, used lethal force against two U.S. Border Patrol agents, and then immediately returned back to Mexico. The astonishing incident happened on the Tohono O'odham Indian Reservation in southwestern Arizona. Thankfully, both Border Patrol agents were unharmed.

    Almost immediately afterward, Mexican officials contacted U.S. authorities to sincerely apologize for the incident. And according to U.S. Border Patrol spokesperson Andy Adame, it turns out that the helicopter was manned by law enforcement agents who were on a "drug interdiction operation.".....snip~

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Wait only progressives wrote the laws? Who again gave amnesty in 1986?
    The President was authorized by Congress to grant amnesty through legislative process in 1986.
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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Good. I hope some come live next door to you.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    They should have banned together when the first Europeans descended on North America but they didn't. They don't have a legal argument in a court of law.

    It comes down having sovereignty and the indigenous Native Americans never had sovereignty over the land they resided in.
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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Your in favor of separating families?
    I'm in favor of enforcing the law. If that enforcement causes a family to be separated then so be it.

    Nice attempt to appeal to emotion though.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I think if what you say comes to pass then all Native Americans should band together and get the UN to kick every immigrant descendant out of north America. It would only be fair. (sarcasm)
    So you're comparing what's happening with illegal immigrants today to what occure day to that of colonial age?

    Okay. So you acknowledge that they're invaders attempting to conquer the United States, as opposed to immigrnats simply attempting to integrate into our society?

    Because if not, there's not really a comparison there. The early settlers and forward essentially invaded and conquered this land. They did not integrate with the Native Americans but simply pushed them out and took their land. This is the means of land aquisition on a country level for much of this worlds history. If that is what these illegal aliens are doing then your comparison is apt, and we should react to them as we would any other invading force. If they are not invading, then it is not similar to what we did with the native americans and the comparison is apt.

    So you tell me chris, since you're making the claim...are the illegal aliens entering this country an invading force of conquerers, or is their situation one significantly and sizably different than that of the native americans and early settlers?

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Exactly TDS.....Mexico isn't in the Right with this issue at all. Its time we take a harder stance with them. All we need to do is to start sanctioning them. Bet then we will see a change in their policy.
    You cant sanction someone for citizens committing a crime. Its like someone sanctioning us because we have a lot of drug use.


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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Worse is New Mexico.....they are able to get thru in waves.

    Then Last week on June 27th in Arizona.




    Border Patrol agents were fired upon by Mexican military helicopters that traveled across the border early Thursday morning, reports News 4 Tucson.

    According to Art del Cueto, Border Patrol Tucson Sector union president, sometime between 12 am and 6 pm at least one helicopter unexpectedly crossed into U.S. territory, used lethal force against two U.S. Border Patrol agents, and then immediately returned back to Mexico. The astonishing incident happened on the Tohono O'odham Indian Reservation in southwestern Arizona. Thankfully, both Border Patrol agents were unharmed.

    Almost immediately afterward, Mexican officials contacted U.S. authorities to sincerely apologize for the incident. And according to U.S. Border Patrol spokesperson Andy Adame, it turns out that the helicopter was manned by law enforcement agents who were on a "drug interdiction operation.".....snip~
    What happened seems to be in dispute, so I'm not sure of the facts.

    Mexican official says chopper didn't cross border

    PHOENIX -- A top Mexican official Friday denied a report by Customs and Border Protection that a Mexican helicopter crossed the border into Arizona and fired shots near U.S. agents Thursday.
    Tomas Zeron de Lucio, senior director of the Criminal Investigation Agency of the Mexican Attorney General's Office, said in a statement that the helicopter was taking part in a raid on a ranch near the border being used by a criminal organization to smuggle drugs and illegal immigrants across the border into the United States.
    … "I don't believe we crossed the border, because we had our (navigation devices), but it was exactly 100 meters from the border," he said, according to a transcript of a conference he held with reporters in Mexico City. Mexican official says chopper didn't cross border

    Mexican Helicopter Crosses U.S. Border, Fires on Border Patrol

    A Mexican helicopter that crossed into Arizona and fired on US border agents on Thursday appears to have done so accidentally, a US government official told NBC News.
    In a brief statement, Customs and Border Protection said that a Mexican helicopter crossed approximately 100 yards north into Arizona on Thursday morning. Two shots were fired from the helicopter, which was on a law enforcement operation.

    The official described the rounds as “warning shots,” and said they were fired at two border agents sitting in an unmarked car. When the Mexicans realized what happened, they landed the helicopter and apologized profusely. Mexican Helicopter Crosses U.S. Border, Fires on Border Patrol - NBC News

    Mexico denies claims that a police helicopter opened fire on American soil near U.S. border agents

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    Published: Friday, June 27, 2014, 5:34 PM

    A Mexican law enforcement chopper crossed about 100 yards north into the Arizona desert, the U.S. Border Patrol said in a statement. The helicopter then fired two shots on the Tohono O’Odham Indian Nation, which sits on the border. Border patrol union leaders say the Mexicans fired at agents but that none of them were hurt.
    Mexico denies claims that a police helicopter opened fire on American soil near U.S. border agents - NY Daily News

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So you're comparing what's happening with illegal immigrants today to what occure day to that of colonial age?

    Okay. So you acknowledge that they're invaders attempting to conquer the United States, as opposed to immigrnats simply attempting to integrate into our society?

    Because if not, there's not really a comparison there. The early settlers and forward essentially invaded and conquered this land. They did not integrate with the Native Americans but simply pushed them out and took their land. This is the means of land aquisition on a country level for much of this worlds history. If that is what these illegal aliens are doing then your comparison is apt, and we should react to them as we would any other invading force. If they are not invading, then it is not similar to what we did with the native americans and the comparison is apt.

    So you tell me chris, since you're making the claim...are the illegal aliens entering this country an invading force of conquerers, or is their situation one significantly and sizably different than that of the native americans and early settlers?
    They obviously arent alike hence the sarcasm. SImply trying to inject some tolerance and mercy.
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