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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Someone said war i said there is no war and just because there is violence in an area is not a good enough reason for refugee status.
    That's for the courts to decide.


    they are illegal there are already rules in place for dealing with them they are booked and sent back to their country of origin....
    Booked and given a hearing. And when the courts are overwhelmed, it takes time to complete that process.

    Further, if they apply for amnesty, then a different set of practices are applied.


    it is due to the fact that their parents think they will get amnesty from the president that is the exact reason.
    Ah, so Obama is responsible for people in a completely different country, who are fleeing high levels of crime, because they misunderstand Obama's policies?

    Y'know what, I think I'll blame the Republicans, who have spent the last 2 years falsely accusing Obama of wanting to offer a Reagan-style amnesty. Yeah, that's the ticket.


    as i stated before if you and people like you want them here then we will send them to your home and you can foot the bill to take care of them. put your money where your mouth is. i want no part and if it was up to me they would be filed out and sent back to where they came from and their home country billed for the resources used to do it.
    Uh huh. Well, I wanted no part in the Iraq war, or in spending obscene amounts on wasted defense spending. Can I get my money back for that? Maybe I should get you to pay my part of the bill, if you supported that war.

    Taxation and government spending is not like ordering a sandwich at a deli, where you tell them every item you want, and if you want a pickle on the side. Sometimes the government does what you want, sometimes it doesn't. That's how it works when you live in a nation of 313 million people, who have diverse ideas about how to run a country.

    That said, I have absolutely no problems whatsoever with an immigration detention center in my general area. I only ask that all detention centers be run as humanely, cleanly and efficiently as possible, for the sake of the detainees.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Am I to understand that there are that many illegal immigrants from Salvador and Honduras in this country that delivering 50,000 children to them is possible? And who are the other 240,000 illegals that make up the grand total of 290,000? I'm finding this hard to believe for several reasons - the chief of them being: How do they know where to send everybody? As far as the kids go, their stories seem to be either one of two reasons: that they are fleeing violence - which makes me question why, if it's that "violent," did their worthless - [I'm using the only word I can think of that won't get me banned for foul language] parents leave them in the first place; and/or that they are trying to find their parents. Since they've never been here before, how do they, or the administration, know where their parents are so they can have a happy family reunion?!? C'mon, America is a big place, and most Americans don't like to be lied to! :
    How does the obama regime know where to send the illegals? Simple. he has the census data and he has a county by county map of the places that voted against him. With chain migration in five years the 300k illegals will become three million immigrants. The anti-American monsters in our government intend to change these immigrants into voters. Put three million people into places that vote for Republicans and most of them will magically vote for democrats. The end is in sight. In a decade, if this stands, we will become a one party state much like the former Soviet Union.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    When divorced from intent, absolutely. The letter of the law can be a harmful thing when intent is removed for purposes of using said law outside of it's intent.
    I'm pretty sure the text I referred to was included intentionally and didn't insert itself into the bill accidentally.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Sure. I got the link from out of the OP's source, as I wanted to actually read the soure for the DC's claims as opposed to take their word for things. It was one of the multiple articles it linked. Here you go, STORY.
    OK, I read the CNN piece and I have to say it makes me feel conflicted. As the article states, a parent who has someone send their kid to cross the border illegally is taking an incredible risk with their child. In addition to the problems we mentioned, the article also mentions the risk of the child being sexually abused. And it doesn't take much for me to imagine something even worse than that happening to the child. After all, they were doing something illegal. If something were to go terribly wrong, what are they going to do? Call the police?

    I can also see how some of these kids might be in situations where poverty or violence might make such a risk conceivable, but the article (and the women's stories) didn't hint at that. I'm sure some of them are in that situation, but I have no idea how many. Lots? Many? Most? Who knows? I sure don't.

    That story made it sounds, particularly with the first mother, that the motivation was to re-unite the family. While that's an understandable desire, the risks don't seem to justify the decision. Either way, it's a pretty sad story all around.
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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Yes, they are being treated according to the law that is currently on the books. Congress legislated, and the President is acting in accordance with that legislation. I know that Obama's record in that regard is a little spotty, but either you want him to enforce the laws or you don't. If you want him to pick and choose which laws he enforces, you can't scream when he does that differently than you'd like.
    I think we all know that Obama already picks and chooses the laws he wants to enforce.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It was long before Nixon extended recongnition to the Communist government.
    You mean he visited China?

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Dear Forum,

    I know this sounds cold. Let me preface this by stating I am not a part of the Bat-Shirt-Crazy section of the Republican Party. That's neither here-nor-there, we have to stop this and we have to stop this now. Folks from the south are not coming from East Berlin (by the way, it was really hard to do, and they had electric fences). They come here because they know they can stay. I no longer care how bad they have it, or what excuse they have to come here. My wife did it legally in 1976. Her sisters before that.

    My family has been here since the start of the U.S. (Marquis de Lafayette, according to the family tree), I am white-guy with Luxembourg, Norwegian, French, Irish and German blood (The Germans were late comers, they didn't get here until 1876), and that makes me a Mutt. But rest assured, every damn one of them nationalities came here LEGALLY.

    America doesn't build roads (Ike), we don't fix bridges, we don't take care of our Veterans, and we have a whole lot of other interests before we have to start baby sitting South American children. If we do not stop it . . . it will get worse. I'm sorry . . if it was my choice, I'd be flying them back in droves. You may ask; what if no country accepts them?
    OK, shut them off from every American dollar. What? I can't get a banana from Belize? Look, we are the World's sponge . . . I am tired of it. I am willing for us to take a responsible role, but being Mac-Daddy must end.

    Respectfully,
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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by michijo View Post
    Yes, but that was merely part of the USA's endless cold war proxy support for various groups. I did all the research a long time ago. The USA always supports one group supposedly against communism, but there are other reasons than fighting communism, and in general the USA supports verty hard right killers who kill peasants, women, and children, and in many cases are worse than the worst communists. We after all supported Pinochet. But at the heart of it is business like the United Fruit Company, whether or not we lose land or money, and all stuff about morality and caring about democracy and humanity is a lie. The originally anti-red scare was shere fear-tactics pedaled to normal conservative society, such as the McCarthy lie that all commies were homosexuals, when most Communist states like Cuba or Soviet Union were just as severe toward gays as Christian Americans.

    Weve been basically lied to for years in order to support the elite's control of natural resources in the world. They lie and pull us into any war imaginable for the western Anglo-elite. WW1 is a good example. And of course Dalkton Trumbo got put on the commie list for making a movie critical of WW1, Johnny Got his Gun. Basically you people care very little about real "freedom".
    When I said what caused the big divide between the Republican and Democrat parties, China played a major role and so did the Korean War, the firing of Gen. MacArthur and a few other things.

    I want to point out that both Republicans and Democrats were both patriotic, even the liberals in America were nationalistic and anti commie and anti socialist. In fact from the fall of Nationalist China to 1970 it was who was a bigger hawk, who was tougher against communism. JFK was an anti communist big time and a hawk. His brother Bobby Kennedy was one of the biggest hawks in Washington. Bobby wore two hats in the JFk administration, the Attorney General and he was in charge of CIA special ops.

    But the divide started in 1952 when the Republicans got dirty.

    >" The Republican right divided all Democrats into five categories: The Criminals, the traitors, the cowards, the incompetents who always blundered into war. And the effete who lacked sufficient vigor to invade China and conquer it."<

    (The above is from a history book we were required to read back in college over forty years ago.)

    But I digress, if I continued it would be thread drift and it should be in a Vietnam War thread not this thread.

    To get back on track, it was Obama's failure or refusing to secure our borders, refusing to enforce our immigration laws and going around Congress and writing his own immigration polices using executive orders why this thread exist today. Obama created the illegal alien jihad at the border and instead of stopping it he's relocating the illegal Allen jihad throughout our neighborhoods in America and the taxpayers will be footing the cost.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You do realize how hard that will be, expensive, and inhumane?
    If you feel an obligation to fix stupidity, why don't you go down there and do it?
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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    If you feel an obligation to fix stupidity, why don't you go down there and do it?
    Wait, what?

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