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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    No one wants kids piling up at the border. But most Americans -- including fiscal conservatives -- do in fact want a better path to citizenship for immigrants, including illegal ones.
    There already is a path to citizenship, there are other in line ahead of these people.

    By the same token, we can say that Republicans who repeatedly refuse to work on immigration reform are playing to the conservative base, rather than dealing with this in a humane fashion. See how that works?

    This isn't something any American did (except lefties encouraging immigration)-THEY made the choice to break up their family, and become human cargo.
    Really? That's your complaint?

    Thats a significant complaint amongst 1st generation immigrants. They did it right, why can't others?
    For what? Moving illegal immigrants to a detention center near your home?

    This isn't just detention-its a precursor to amnesty and everyone and thier gramma knows it. Amnesty does not work-because it simply rewards illegal behavior. So we get a repeat in a few years.
    Basically, the law does not allow ICE to perform a "removal" process immediately unless they are Mexican, or if they request asylum. There is nothing illegal about relocating detainees to a place that happens to be near you. Sorry to disappoint your outrage, but: Obama isn't violating any laws here.
    He's got his pen and his phone-luckily executive orders are relatively easy to overturn/mitigate. This is all about politics, from the same group who says asking for ID at the ballot box is an insurmountable barrier.

    And another thing-it does effect me-at work where I treat these people, and where I see the violence, drug use, and drunk driving thats rampant. None of this makes it to the newspapers.
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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Am I to understand that there are that many illegal immigrants from Salvador and Honduras in this country that delivering 50,000 children to them is possible? And who are the other 240,000 illegals that make up the grand total of 290,000? I'm finding this hard to believe for several reasons - the chief of them being: How do they know where to send everybody? As far as the kids go, their stories seem to be either one of two reasons: that they are fleeing violence - which makes me question why, if it's that "violent," did their worthless - [I'm using the only word I can think of that won't get me banned for foul language] parents leave them in the first place; and/or that they are trying to find their parents. Since they've never been here before, how do they, or the administration, know where their parents are so they can have a happy family reunion?!? C'mon, America is a big place, and most Americans don't like to be lied to! :

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    I think the big mistake many have been making, including me, is that we assumed Barrack Obama was just naive and well out of his depth. The idea that he knew what he was doing never occurred to me because I didn't put myself in his place. When Nancy Pelosi said that those arriving illegally in the US are all 'Americans' it seemed quite foolish, but no one can be that stupid and still hold quite a high level in the US Government. Therefore, perhaps they are a great deal smarter than anyone in the middle or right gave them credit for.

    These two articles go a long way towards explaning the Hope And Change slogan, particularly the 'Change' part. A great deal of this was inspired by a previous "Community Organizer", who also said a good crisis should never go to waste. Looking at it from BHO's point of view, and those of his intellectual supporters, he has been a remarkable success.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The law says that undocumented aliens who are not from Mexico and surrender to ICE shall be released with a court date
    At which point they fail to appear. Everyone and their gramma knows this.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    At which point they fail to appear. Everyone and their gramma knows this.
    Would you suggest putting tracking collars on them?
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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Would you suggest putting tracking collars on them?
    Nope. I'd suggest immediate removal to south of mexico, via the cheapest means possible-ships or otherwise. Increase border security so children cant just walk in. Strict penalties to anyone who rents to, or hires illegals.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Nope. I'd suggest immediate removal to south of mexico, via the cheapest means possible-ships or otherwise. Increase border security so children cant just walk in. Strict penalties to anyone who rents to, or hires illegals.
    Mass deportation without due process is illiegal.
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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Mass deportation without due process is illiegal.
    So we do it like we did in the 50's.
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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I already posted a link to a bill that reauthorized the laws I referred to. Here's a link to the original bill
    Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act of 2000

    Here's a link to related bills
    U.S. Laws and Legislation on Trafficking in Persons

    And the NYT link is not an op-ed. It ran on the front page as news.
    That particular law is about human trafficking. It does not apply here. Do you not know what "Human trafficking" means?
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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Mass deportation without due process is illiegal.
    The right constantly complains that Obama ignores the law except when they complain that Obama is following the law.
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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The right constantly complains that Obama ignores the law except when they complain that Obama is following the law.
    If I didn't know any better, I'd say their default position is "anything Obama does is automatically bad." But that can't be it.
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