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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You do realize how hard that will be, expensive, and inhumane?
    Doesn't matter, they are in-violation of the law. As a country of laws, they must be followed.
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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    A country cannot. If a country sanctioned whole countries because of free moving citizens....
    A sovereign country can sanction another sovereign country for any reason it want to.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Dream on. It's lying by poll plain and simple.
    Right. So, any poll whose results you don't like is a "lie." I should try that line some time.


    That's too damn bad. As to that last, absolute rubbish.
    Oh? So you can articulate why the number of legal immigrants is 0.22% of the total US population? Why the total number of refugees and asylees is 70,000 a year? Why no single nation can exceed 7% of the total in a given year?


    No, it's not. The last bit about El Salvador is, it does not qualify for humanitarian aid. This is not anyone's fault but their very own that their country is in this position. They are the architects of their own situation.
    So much for the humanitarian aspect of immigration. You do know that Honduras and El Salvador have been trading the #1 position for the past 10 years, right?


    Bull**** plain and simple. Obama has indeed been trying to let them walk....
    He's shifted immigration policy to removals, which means that there's an actual process for those who get caught, and they cannot apply for citizenship for up to 10 years after getting kicked out. In contrast, previous administrations just did a "return," where they basically turned people around at the border with no process and no consequences -- which is basically inviting them to turn around and try again.

    And again: Obama has not instructed ICE to "let them walk." There are these funny things called "laws" which determine how immigrants are handled when they're caught. Many of these illegal immigrants are literally crossing the border and waiting for ICE agents to pick them up, so they can apply for asylum. No one can wave a hand and send them packing.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You do realize how hard that will be, expensive, and inhumane?
    Guess what ?

    The past 5 1/2 years of Obama has been to expensive and inhumane for America.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Once again, those are about trafficking, not at all applicable.
    I disagree, it is about human trafficking.

    Some of these children are being brought here by human traffickers hired by family members already in the U.S.

    Otherwise how would a Federal Judge in Texas accuse the Obama Administration of

    “completing the criminal mission” of human traffickers “who are violating the border security of the United States” and assisting a “criminal conspiracy in achieving its illegal goals.”

    Federal Judge: The Obama Administration Aids and Abets Human Trafficking | National Review Online

    Here we have Brit Hume on Fox News defending the President

    Brit Hume on Border Crisis: Obama Is Following The Law | Video | RealClearPolitics

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    You're former bail bondsman would disagree with you.

    Flight Risk Law & Legal Definition

    >"Flight risk is a term that is used by a court to describe a person or defendant who is likely to flee the country/state/area to avoid criminal prosecution. Courts consider the flight risk factor while deciding whether or not to grant bond to a defendant. This factor is considered while deciding the bond amount also. Courts have the discretion to set higher bail amount for flight risks."<

    Flight Risk Law & Legal Definition
    We're not talking about people who are out on bail.
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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Once again, those are about trafficking, not at all applicable.
    I know, I know!!

    "The polls are lies" "The laws are lies"

    Everything's a lie, even if it's documented.

    Even republicans are admitting that the law does not allow them to be immediately deported

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...g_the_law.html

    Republican Congressman Raul Labrador of Idaho said on Sunday TV that the Obama administration should deport these children immediately. Later in the interview, he conceded the law does not permit that.
    And guess what law he was referring to -
    The law in question is called the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008.
    You know that law! It's the one you said doesn't say that even though even a republican admits that it does!!
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    We're not talking about people who are out on bail.
    That's right, why aren't these people posting a bond like all Americans have to do when they are given a court date be it for j-walking or DUI ?

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That's right, why aren't these people posting a bond like all Americans have to do when they are given a court day be it for J-walking or DUI ?
    Because they're children and I have had several court dates and never had to post bond.
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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Why wouldn't Mexico be held responsible for allowing mass migration of people to trapse thru their country? With no food and some with barely any clothing. Now kids with no parents or adults. Then with how many dying and speading whatever virus' or diseases they do. Stealing and affecting any communities already struggling inside Mexico? Why wouldn't this be a problem again?

    Do you think by giving them a clearer path to the US prevents what they have to deal with? Especially knowing what US law is concerning Immigrants coming into its country.
    Mexico has become an enemy country. WE need to prevent Americans from visiting, from spending money in Mexico, and from doing any further business with Mexico.

    We need to give them one, and only one warning, then mass military forces on the border and invade. Push the Mexicans south and create a new, shorter, straight border.

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