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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    O provided you the proof, doing the "head slap" bit mearly shows you only read what you want to read... bull****.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How can you sanction a country when the freedom of movment is a fundamental human right recognized by both the US and Mexico?
    Again, you really, truly, need a link to some verification of that fundamental human right.

    You do not have a fundamental human right to violate other countries borders.

    You do have a fundamental human right trespass on my property.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How can you sanction a country when the freedom of movment is a fundamental human right recognized by both the US and Mexico?
    That's silly to the extreme and even the most leftist UN member would laugh in your face. Any so-called freedom of movement right pertains to movement within one's own country. The UN is just fine with countries having borders, they all do. There are treaties and agreements with all South American countries that govern extradition and rendition. They can be sanctioned for not living up to those.

    In addition, again, fine the hell out of them on a daily basis and make any future trade or foreign aid conditional on them taking their folks back.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    O provided you the proof, doing the "head slap" bit mearly shows you only read what you want to read... bull****.
    A border guard saying they will be. Great proof you got there. Welfare is generally seen as SNAP, Mediciaid, and SSI. Lets see what illegal immigrants get this.
    "The health law will help some gain coverage, although those in the country illegally will not get access to federal subsidies or to insurance sold through new state-based exchanges. "
    FAQ: Obamacare And Coverage For Immigrants - Kaiser Health News
    -Nope no Mediciaid-

    "Unauthorized aliens (often referred to as illegal aliens) are not eligible for most federal benefits,
    regardless of whether they are means tested. The class of benefits denied is broad. The scope of
    the bar on unauthorized aliens hinges on how broadly the clause “federal public benefit” is
    implemented. The law defines this clause to be
    (A) any grant, contract, loan, professional license, or commercial license provided by an
    agency of the United States or by appropriated funds of the United States; and (B) any
    retirement, welfare, health, disability, public or assisted housing, postsecondary education,
    food assistance, unemployment benefit, or any other similar benefit for which payments or
    assistance are provided to an individual, household, or family eligibility unit by an agency of
    the United States or by appropriated funds of the United States.40"
    http://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL33809.pdf
    --Well thats just about everything--


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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I favor rounding up every member of the family and sending all of them back where they belong and they don't belong in America.
    That would be illegal under laws passed while bush* was president.

    Ironic how the same people who furiously claim that Obama ignores the law are furiously insisting that Obama ignore the law
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Again, you really, truly, need a link to some verification of that fundamental human right.

    You do not have a fundamental human right to violate other countries borders.

    You do have a fundamental human right trespass on my property.
    See: International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, Universal Declaration of Human Rights, all signed by the US and Mexico. Does it make immigration laws void? No.


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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    See: International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, Universal Declaration of Human Rights, all signed by the US and Mexico. Does it make immigration laws void? No.
    I didn't bother reading the complete text, but the simplified version states that you have a right to freedom of movement in your own country. I would agree. Our own right authorizes travel between states.

    I'm not clear what that has to do with illegally crossing our borders. As long as you stay in your country, no harm done.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Not these South of the border 3rd world types. We do not want these sort of people in the United States.
    Nice racist rant! Even the KKK would be impressed.

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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    I didn't bother reading the complete text, but the simplified version states that you have a right to freedom of movement in your own country. I would agree. Our own right authorizes travel between states.

    I'm not clear what that has to do with illegally crossing our borders. As long as you stay in your country, no harm done.
    It states that everyone has the right of movement in their own country. Which is why it would be hard to stop and sanction Mexico from leaving their country because to leave their country they have to move closer to the border. But it also states people have the right to leave their own country and return.


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    Re: Border Meltdown: Obama Delivering 290,000 Illegals To U.S. Homes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Your in favor of separating families?
    Always with the emotional ploy. It's all pro-illegal folks have.
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