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    Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    In Bolivia entry into the workforce has been reduced to 10 years of age. The measure is to reduce poverty in the country.
    Must we ban imports from the country?

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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Considering it was reduced to 10 years from 14 years, it's not like they did a massive modification.

    If imports weren't banned before, don't ban them now. Unless you think that 14 is somehow an appropriate age for work instead of being the age for education.

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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Well i did summer corn detasseling at age 13-14 and knew some who were related to the owners and started age 10-11 and that's in good old USA. In fact, farm labor at any age is legal here, so even worse than Bolivia. I assure you that was not easy or entirely safe work, 56 hrs/week. Given the peer pressure to sign up in rural areas (same with driver's ed and football), maybe we should ban imports from ourselves.

    I'd like to hear your reasoning for this objection, because to me driver's ed at 15 and football at 8-9 is just as abusive. But hey, allowing 15 year old to drive gives mcdonald's a steady stream of labor. More important than safety i know

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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Well, reading the article I don't think I'd object too much. Looks like they require not only the childs consent but also parents and an "ombudsman" consent. Plus they can only be self employed at age 10, at age 12 they can work for others. Not really much different here in the states. At age 10 a child can have a lemonade stand and at age 12 they can do things like baby sit, their equivalent of working for others. Plus it looks like an employer will have to follow strict standards.

    So long as strict laws are there to protect the child AND they are followed to the T I have no problem with it.
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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Well i did summer corn detasseling at age 13-14 and knew some who were related to the owners and started age 10-11 and that's in good old USA. In fact, farm labor at any age is legal here, so even worse than Bolivia. I assure you that was not easy or entirely safe work, 56 hrs/week. Given the peer pressure to sign up in rural areas (same with driver's ed and football), maybe we should ban imports from ourselves.

    I'd like to hear your reasoning for this objection, because to me driver's ed at 15 and football at 8-9 is just as abusive. But hey, allowing 15 year old to drive gives mcdonald's a steady stream of labor. More important than safety i know
    Because those aren't careers. That's why. The best system for tomorrows' society is one where people are trained for future careers, not for the jobs that sadly are being allowed to be filled by humans today.

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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Because those aren't careers. That's why. The best system for tomorrows' society is one where people are trained for future careers, not for the jobs that sadly are being allowed to be filled by humans today.

    The trick is knowing what those future jobs are. Industries seem to change overnight and by the time a workforce is trained their skills become obsolete and replaced by new technology and/or more efficient methods. That might part of the reason the US had a jobless economic recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Well, reading the article I don't think I'd object too much. Looks like they require not only the childs consent but also parents and an "ombudsman" consent. Plus they can only be self employed at age 10, at age 12 they can work for others. Not really much different here in the states. At age 10 a child can have a lemonade stand and at age 12 they can do things like baby sit, their equivalent of working for others. Plus it looks like an employer will have to follow strict standards.

    So long as strict laws are there to protect the child AND they are followed to the T I have no problem with it.
    When I did research on the Thai economy the children did not often have Cool Aid stands but worked in sweatshops. This is normal in many economies around the world and the Parents and the children agree to the conditions gladly. The kids and their parents are happy in the Philippines to get sex jobs, because it means a longer life than starving in the streets or fields. Of course, these latter kids we prefer to let starve as sex is naughty.

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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The trick is knowing what those future jobs are. Industries seem to change overnight and by the time a workforce is trained their skills become obsolete and replaced by new technology and/or more efficient methods. That might part of the reason the US had a jobless economic recovery.
    well, there isn't much "trick" to it.

    Best Jobs Of The Future - Business Insider

    Everyone, including me, can give you a top 10 list easily.

    Programmers are top of the line.
    Engineers (from technical branches).
    Doctors.
    Lawyers and other judicial employees.
    Teachers.
    City planners
    arhitects
    Chemists
    Biologists
    Geologists
    Chefs and food specialists
    etc

    What you won't see is factory workers coz of automation.
    Retailers... they need to go out.
    fast food workers should get expired.
    etc

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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Because those aren't careers. That's why. The best system for tomorrows' society is one where people are trained for future careers, not for the jobs that sadly are being allowed to be filled by humans today.
    Ok, but i'm talking about indifference to the kid's safety and well being. I don't see why career path should be relevant at that age. In the US, we put safety of minors at risk constantly with lackluster driving requirements, contact sports, and even just attending high school. Then there's the question why we allow 13 year olds to work in the fields all summer and with no parent consent or independent oversight. I remember even working thru a severe lightning storm as the owner just stood there arms crossed and fortunately, one of the kids took it upon himself to yell at everyone to run for the buses.

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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    If kids want to work, let them.

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