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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I don't understand why when the subject of children working comes up it leads to prostitution.

    One has nothing to do with the other.
    To the contrary.

    Prostitution can and in some cases IS a job that children are involved in. It's not even illegal in some areas, probably.

    Granted you usually think of at least semi-coercive "pimps" being involved, which counters the whole job idea, but that's not always the case, I would bet.


    Edit: Additionally, children working in anything beyond odd jobs like babysitting, mowing lawns, etc, are more likely to have some amount of pressure on them to do so.
    Might be parents, society, or whatever, but the pressure is still there, and that semi-coercive force is in some ways analogous with the situation of prostitutes.

    Exceptions of course exist.
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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    To the contrary.

    Prostitution can and in some cases IS a job that children are involved in. It's not even illegal in some areas, probably.

    Granted you usually think of at least semi-coercive "pimps" being involved, which counters the whole job idea, but that's not always the case, I would bet.


    Edit: Additionally, children working in anything beyond odd jobs like babysitting, mowing lawns, etc, are more likely to have some amount of pressure on them to do so.
    Might be parents, society, or whatever, but the pressure is still there, and that semi-coercive force is in some ways analogous with the situation of prostitutes.

    Exceptions of course exist.
    We are talking about Boliva n this case. Child labor would be a legal job ina factory or a store. Child prostitution is illegal just about everywhere.

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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    So, what's wrong with kids working? Obviously they need to get an education, but working in between is a part of that education. We can't throw kids into the work force at 18, after never having a job and expect them to know how to work.
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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    We are talking about Boliva n this case. Child labor would be a legal job ina factory or a store. Child prostitution is illegal just about everywhere.
    That may be the case.

    My point about semi-coercive pressures still stands though.

    How many children, do you think, are going to be working in a factory or a store because they, even at a young age, realize their family is barely treading water financially, and want to help out? How many will have the additional pressure from parents to do so?

    How much better would it be if they could go to school instead?

    Granted the economic conditions probably don't allow it, and working in a factory is probably better than not working, but it's still not a situation I would prefer.

    That said....if the option is "prevent children from working for political reasons only to watch them or their family suffer malnutrition due to lack of funds", I'd have to go with "allow children to work". It still indicates serious issues with an economy.
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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I'm not entirely sure he meant that, but it sure as hell appears he does, from that post.

    I'd rather we pull all the funding from drug enforcement and use it to combat child trafficking. Funding from a bunch of other unnecessary ****, too.
    Not only that - I would probably support invading a country that harbors child traffickers, but not much else outside an actual (and significant) threat against the USA would (IMO) warrant such.

    What can I say...to me, sex crimes are some of the worst crimes that occur, and child sex crimes are THE worst. Above murder, even.
    Bolded: Agreed.

    Maenad is just butthurt so he's going the path of libel. It's expected of those lesser minded.

    "I'd rather we pull all the funding from drug enforcement and use it to combat child trafficking. Funding from a bunch of other unnecessary ****, too.
    Not only that - I would probably support invading a country that harbors child traffickers, but not much else outside an actual (and significant) threat against the USA would (IMO) warrant such."

    That would actually make alot of sense.

    At first I thought you said ALL Enforcement, in which case I was going to go on a tirade about the economics of rule of law's impact on business costs, etc.

    But yea, 100% agreed there too.

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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha C View Post
    Actually acceptance of child prostitution would be an extremely beneficial thing for Tourism (and especially Sex Tourism) in the country.

    NOT SAYING ITS WORTH THE PRICE.

    Just underlining the *possible* ancillary economic benefits.
    Fewer kids would starve to death. But since we are saving them from a fate worse than death, we can hold our heads high.

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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Fewer kids would starve to death. But since we are saving them from a fate worse than death, we can hold our heads high.
    It is a Difficult issue. From very, very many different perceptives.

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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Prostitution would be even worse.
    .....than working their little fingers to the bone, literally until their small bodies are twisted and sick and coughing themselves to convulsion.

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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    How Green Was My Valley is one of my favorite movies....


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    I approve of child labor laws. Frankly I'm kind of surprised Uruguay already had child labor laws in place and just wanted to lower the age for farm children. Same issue came up in the US not too long ago.......

    Child Work: Agriculture, Entertainment Fair Labor Standards Act Exemption - Stateline

    But generally I think kids should be in school and not working 10 to 12 hours a day at hard labor. But age appropriate chores or part time jobs...no problem.
    I think you are totally right that the kids should be fed and at school.
    Thank you for the video.

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    re: Bolivia congress allows child labor from age 10

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I think you are totally right that the kids should be fed and at school.
    Thank you for the video.
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