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    Re: Jay Carney Blasts White House Press Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    there is some validity to carney's criticisms. the chasing the same soccer ball down the field metaphor rings true, as a number of reporters seem not to have as much of a desire to report political insights as they do to generate a 'gotcha' moment
    but my sense is the biggest problem was jay carney's substantial liability. to be most effective in that presidential spokesmodel position, he must be both the smartest guy in the room, and show up with a command of the facts. he wasn't. he didn't
    If Carney has done that, a significant portion of the regime would be in prison by now.
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    Re: Jay Carney Blasts White House Press Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Right because that worked so well for say... Susan Rice who repeated what the other agencies were telling was most likely, and everyone was soooo happy about that. But of course, righties complain no matter what choices are made by anyone in this administration or anyone to the left of Putin.
    i believe it is safe to say susan rice failed to show up armed with the facts necessary to be an effective spokesperson
    like jay
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    Re: Jay Carney Blasts White House Press Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If Carney has done that, a significant portion of the regime would be in prison by now.
    good to know
    share with us the facts jay did not disclose
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Jay Carney Blasts White House Press Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i believe it is safe to say susan rice failed to show up armed with the facts necessary to be an effective spokesperson
    like jay
    She came with the facts she was given by the agency, but instead of going after the agency, everyone went after her, then Carney who wisely says, go to the horse's mouth for those answers, be the horse the CIA, the Pentagon, China, etc, y'all bitch anyway. I stand by my remark that y'all will bitch like drama queens no matter what any one in the administration does, even if it mirrors perfectly or bests what Republicans in the same position have done in the past.
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    Re: Jay Carney Blasts White House Press Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    She came with the facts she was given by the agency, but instead of going after the agency, everyone went after her, then Carney who wisely says, go to the horse's mouth for those answers, be the horse the CIA, the Pentagon, China, etc, y'all bitch anyway. I stand by my remark that y'all will bitch like drama queens no matter what any one in the administration does, even if it mirrors perfectly or bests what Republicans in the same position have done in the past.
    show up with answers, and no referral is needed
    his inclination to offer mere referral instead of answers to the questions gives the appearance he is inadequately informed and/or hiding something
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    Re: Jay Carney Blasts White House Press Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    show up with answers, and no referral is needed
    his inclination to offer mere referral instead of answers to the questions gives the appearance he is inadequately informed and/or hiding something
    Go ahead keep avoiding the point to the comparison. It's just shows why wingers aren't worth the time to debate. Adios!
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    Re: Jay Carney Blasts White House Press Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    So you're incensed because he won't talk out his ass about things he's not informed on?
    When has that ever stopped him before?

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    Re: Jay Carney Blasts White House Press Corps

    I don't think there is much point in having a white house press corps either. It is a spin factory devoid of anything truthful or meaningful. We should be judging politicians by what they do, not by what they say.

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    Re: Jay Carney Blasts White House Press Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Good, it's about time. They've been little but jokes for as long as I can remember paying attention. Usually three questions, over and over and over from each partisan side. So even if twenty are called on, the most you can hope for is that six usually incredulous, emotion-laced, presumptive questions are answered.
    well, I dunno... if asked a question and got a bull**** answer... I think I would probably keep asking the same question too. <shrug>

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    Re: Jay Carney Blasts White House Press Corps

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i believe it is safe to say susan rice failed to show up armed with the facts necessary to be an effective spokesperson
    like jay
    agreed.... and if she did not come with facts, I think it's perfectly proper to say " we don't have enough factual information to determine the answer to that question yet"

    reporters will want answer "right now".. that's a given... but I think the press sect. has the responsibility/duty of giving factually accurate answers, even if that means not giving an answer for a reasonable period of time.

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