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BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Buying

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Then you didn't understand what you read.
At no time does it say Cochran attempted to but a single vote.
There has been no connection established between the claims of the Dem fraudster and Cochran yet.

The only thing we know for sure is that the record reflects Dems fraudulently voting twice.

From the article....In fact the first sentence

An audio interview has surfaced in which the interviewee claims that he was to be paid by the Cochran camp to grease voters in the Mississippi GOP Senate runoff election.

But it's bad, so it must be a Democrat....:roll:
 
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But he'll be the first to say the KKK is a bunch of liberals because they started off as Democrats. Guarantee it.

Well liberals can't disown anyone...didn't you know?
 
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Ah, he's not a "real" Republican. Sweet deal you guys got.
Currently a RINO is still a Republican. So you have no point.

Tell me, what do you call a liberal who is really a conservative?
 
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From the article....In fact the first sentence

But it's bad, so it must be a Democrat....:roll:
You are going in circles with no point.
We know what has been alleged. No proof of the allegations have surfaced yet. No connection to Cochran has been made.
No exchange of cash has been shown.

The known fraudster making the claims is a Dem. Do you deny that?
If the allegation are true, you have no idea if Saleem was acting at the behest of another or on his own.
Do you really not under stand that? No actual connection to Cochran has been made. If true Cochran may not be involved in it at all.

So again; The only thing we know for sure, is that the record reflects Dems fraudulently voting twice.
 
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You are going in circles with no point.
We know what has been alleged. No proof of the allegations have surfaced yet. No connection to Cochran has been made.
No exchange of cash has been shown.

The known fraudster making the claims is a Dem. Do you deny that?
If the allegation are true, you have no idea if Saleem was acting at the behest of another or on his own.
Do you really not under stand that? No actual connection to Cochran has been made. If true Cochran may not be involved in it at all.

So again; The only thing we know for sure, is that the record reflects Dems fraudulently voting twice.

And we don't know yet if Cochran was actually involved or not. He may very well have been, or someone close to him. You're trying to protect him without all the facts.
As for the Dems voting twice, they may have, but so far all we have is the word of the Tea Party. That's just not good enough for me. Show me the prof. show me names and show me where they voted twice.
 
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And we don't know yet if Cochran was actually involved or not. He may very well have been, or someone close to him. You're trying to protect him without all the facts.
The hell I am.
I keep pointing out that we no not know so can't say otherwise.
That is not protecting him. That is a realization of the information we have.


As for the Dems voting twice, they may have, but so far all we have is the word of the Tea Party. That's just not good enough for me. Show me the prof. show me names and show me where they voted twice.
So what you are really saying is that you have not read this whole thread as an example of the claim showing three individuals who voted both in the Democratic Primary and then in the Republic primary was provided.
It has also been acknowledged that those irregularities showing dual voting may just be clerical errors. There is no way to tell otherwise.
And as previously stated.
And whether you realize it or not, as McDaniel camp has claimed, as they can not be proven to be clerical errors any more than they can be proven to be fraudulent voting, the irregularities are enough to suggest fraud, and force this primary to be overturned. Especially if they find enough of them.
 
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Are conservatives not registered as republican? Until the conservatives/tea party get the intestinal fortitude to strike out on their own, they are part of the GOP political party.

A square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not necessarily a square.

Seriously, do I need to walk you through the obvious?
 
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The hell I am.
I keep pointing out that we no not know so can't say otherwise.
That is not protecting him. That is a realization of the information we have.


So what you are really saying is that you have not read this whole thread as an example of the claim showing three individuals who voted both in the Democratic Primary and then in the Republic primary was provided.
It has also been acknowledged that those irregularities showing dual voting may just be clerical errors. There is no way to tell otherwise.
And as previously stated.
And whether you realize it or not, as McDaniel camp has claimed, as they can not be proven to be clerical errors any more than they can be proven to be fraudulent voting, the irregularities are enough to suggest fraud, and force this primary to be overturned. Especially if they find enough of them.

Just because they make a "Claim" should mean nothing. When and if they show hard prof this is nothing more then the young buck whining about getting slickered by the old bull.
 
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A square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not necessarily a square.

Seriously, do I need to walk you through the obvious?

Yes, by all means walk me thru it. Explain to my how the conservatives and tea party can be registered republican and not be in the republican party.
 
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Yes, by all means walk me thru it. Explain to my how the conservatives and tea party can be registered republican and not be in the republican party.

Nobody said that. I responded to this:

Kind of ironic. The Conservatives are always yelling "voter fraud" and if this is true, it certainly is voter fraud committed by Conservatives.

You said CONSERVATIVES, I pointed out that McDaniels is the conservative in this primary, not Cochran, and now somehow you have tried to turn the conversation to whether Tea Party and conservatives are Republican.

In other words you are making no sense whatsoever.
 
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Nobody said that. I responded to this:



You said CONSERVATIVES, I pointed out that McDaniels is the conservative in this primary, not Cochran, and now somehow you have tried to turn the conversation to whether Tea Party and conservatives are Republican.

In other words you are making no sense whatsoever.

Lets try this. The conservatives and tea party self identify as republicans. They are the loudest and quit frankly can be the most obnoxious group in the republican party, but when and if they get the nerve to form their own party they are in fact in the republican party.

Just as the far left loony liberals are the loudest and most obnoxious group in the democratic party.
 
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Lets try this. The conservatives and tea party self identify as republicans. They are the loudest and quit frankly can be the most obnoxious group in the republican party, but when and if they get the nerve to form their own party they are in fact in the republican party.

Just as the far left loony liberals are the loudest and most obnoxious group in the democratic party.


You stated that the "conservatives" were the ones accused of buying votes. You were wrong. Get over it. The Conservative McDaniels was challenging Cochran specifically because he was NOT a conservative.
 
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You stated that the "conservatives" were the ones accused of buying votes. You were wrong. Get over it. The Conservative McDaniels was challenging Cochran specifically because he was NOT a conservative.

There is NO conservative party. Cochran is a Republican. McDaniels is a Republican. Use any name you want, but the fact is there is no conservative party.Perhaps I should have said that it was the Republican party that committed voter fraud.
 
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Is anyone in the media world taking these claims seriously other than conservative blogs?

The mainstream outlets are highly filtered propaganda machines for the statists. Get a clue already.
 
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Search Cochran voting fraud and the day after the election the conservative blogs were calling it a fraudalnat electin.

And they were right. Good point.
 
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You are going in circles with no point.
We know what has been alleged. No proof of the allegations have surfaced yet. No connection to Cochran has been made.
No exchange of cash has been shown.

The known fraudster making the claims is a Dem. Do you deny that?
If the allegation are true, you have no idea if Saleem was acting at the behest of another or on his own.
Do you really not under stand that? No actual connection to Cochran has been made. If true Cochran may not be involved in it at all.

So again; The only thing we know for sure, is that the record reflects Dems fraudulently voting twice.

So on one hand, you attack Cochran for not being a "real" Republican. Then you say he isn't involved at all.

Who's the one going in circles?
 
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You stated that the "conservatives" were the ones accused of buying votes. You were wrong. Get over it. The Conservative McDaniels was challenging Cochran specifically because he was NOT a conservative.

I should have known this was going to devolve into "No true Scotsman" territory....
 
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There is NO conservative party. Cochran is a Republican. McDaniels is a Republican. Use any name you want, but the fact is there is no conservative party.Perhaps I should have said that it was the Republican party that committed voter fraud.

Come on man, you are not serious, are you? You were the one that claimed that "Conservatives" were the ones buying votes. You didn't say "Republicans" in your original post. YOur attempts to backtrack that without admitting your error are failing. But now that you at least manage to state that it was Republicans that are accused at vote tampering to defeat another Republican in the primary I guess it's the closest we can come to a retraction of your original statement.
 
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It's a very odd way of asking that question.

What is it with folks coming to the non-MSM board and complaining the story isn't a MSM source? Watch the interview and decide for yourself if there is something to the story.

The story just broke. I wouldn't expect it to come from MSM since they don't do investigative journalism anymore.

Theres a difference between non-MSM and just plain tabloid news articles.
 
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:doh
The only thing to remember is what has been proven.
And so far in this case, it is that those who fraudulently voted were Dems.

Laughing... how CON of you! :doh

First vote buying is far more difficult (if not impossible) to prove by reviewing voter logs of the GOP.

Second this isn't a Dem scheme.

Third I don't see the evidence so far supporting vote buying, or Dems flocking to vote in the run-off.

Nothing have been proven....
 
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Just FWIW, I think the Rev. is full of it, and I don't care at all which far right winger represents Mississippi. Mainly because I don't know any self respecting con man who would agree to take his fee for a criminal conspiracy on the back end, AFTER he's done all the work and risked jail doing it. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he's not that dumb.

What it looks like is the Cochran campaign DID hire people in the black community to get out the vote, they've admitted all that and it was clearly a big part of his win. But he's talking about handing out envelopes of cash to hundreds of people, personally, and thousands more across the state. That's just not something that should be hard to prove, especially if you're a 'journalist' willing to pay for a story.

A guy who would participate in.voter fraud for money would also claim he did.for money.
 
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Nobody has a problem accepting that Thad Cochran is a moderate. See here as Nate Silver laments the dying breed of Moderate Republicans.

Now that his campaign is caught in possible voter fraud the left tries desperately to label him a Conservative. Shocker.

OK, how about we just label him as a Republican?

Just because you don't want him anymore doesn't mean he changed. He's no Liberal either, and he's not a Democrat.
 
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OK, how about we just label him as a Republican?

Just because you don't want him anymore doesn't mean he changed. He's no Liberal either, and he's not a Democrat.

So long as you accept that Republicans and Democrats were both involved in the scheme. Within the Republican party it is a fight between the moderate Cochran and the conservative McDaniels.

If, as BMCM wanted, we choose to talk about this in terms of ideology, then it was the Moderate who is accused of election tampering not the Conservative.

But then I would guess you don't want moderates being hampered with that baggage either.

How about we settle on the non-ideological nomenclature and just state the simple truth that the Cochran campaign has been accused of election tampering?
 
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