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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Ok,so you were talking about something else.
    We already know that Cochran solicited votes from Dems. We also already know some of those Dems fraudulently voted in both primaries.
    So who do you believe? Cochran spokesman Jordan Russell making such a claim of 37, or the McDaniel bunch who supposedly found irregularity?
    As Cochran involved himself in requesting the fraudulent crossover votes I have already picked a side.
    If the irregularities exist I know who I am going to believe. And that sure is not the claim of only 37.
    I explained that I don't care, but what concerns me is the term "irregular" as opposed to 'illegal.' What does 'irregular' mean? Either a vote should be counted or it's an illegal vote (voter FRAUD!!) that is illegal and should be thrown out.

    And I've seen nothing to indicate Cochran requested 'fraudulent' crossover votes. Do you mean democrats voting in the GOP primary? That's entirely LEGAL. It's illegal (apparently) to vote in both primaries, but I'm fairly certain Cochran isn't on record requesting democrats who have already voted in the democratic primary to come vote illegally for him the GOP primary. Do you have a link to that?

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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Of course there are many possibilities if the allegations are true.
    As already pointed out, such action could be at someone else's behest and not Cochran's.
    It could solely be how Saleem decided to do it. And not how Cochran/campaign thought the money was used for.
    Of course there are many other possibilities other than Cochran is responsible.
    And didn't he say he was stiffed on the funds? Which means there was no money?
    The good Rev. said Saleem delivered $5-10,000 in cash already divided up into envelopes for the good Rev. to pass out to voters. What allegedly happened, however, is the good Rev. was promised $16k to run a fraudulent vote buying scheme (his fee), he didn't get his money up front, and the Cochran campaign stiffed him on his fee. If that happened, he did the illegal work then waited till after the election to get paid for committing various felonies, he's the dumbest con man ever, and so I don't feel too sorry for the man.

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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    What you left out is that the "grand old tradition of Whites in the South manipulating the vote behind closed doors" was a Democrat/liberal tradition, until they abandoned the Democrat party after the bill of rights and voting rights acts in the 60s.
    Oh the silly games CONs play... Southern democrats have little to do with the rest of the Nation's Democrats. They were formed to resist the Party of Lincoln's attempt to give 'the negras' say in local politics post civil war. To call them democrats is like calling Republicans of the pre-civil war era the same as the GOP of this generation.

    They have always been white men focused on keeping power in elite hands and in earlier times they were brazen enough to NOT close the doors- Huey Long could give a good gawd damn who saw what.

    Now they close the doors, not as a nod to the old Democrat system as no Southern White man would admit to doing anything a Damnedyankee thought of, but to try and keep their own ways. Tradition they call it. I call it the Baptist double standard- so pious in public, dirty little boys in private.

    To attach a political party to this is bogus... it is simply a powerful few white men wishing to dominate the local political process- no matter the party label.

    But I do note you did the CON dodge away from the first sentence- white men promising to pay minorities and then reniging....

    Don't matter the political party- THAT is a long running Southern Tradition....

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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I explained that I don't care, but what concerns me is the term "irregular" as opposed to 'illegal.' What does 'irregular' mean? Either a vote should be counted or it's an illegal vote (voter FRAUD!!) that is illegal and should be thrown out.
    Regardless of the law saying they are basically to maintain their position, how do you prove that the person didn't actually change their mind between the first vote and the second vote?
    We know the votes were solicited from the opposite party members.
    That is enough to suggest that the irregularities were done so fraudulently.



    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    And I've seen nothing to indicate Cochran requested 'fraudulent' crossover votes. Do you mean democrats voting in the GOP primary? That's entirely LEGAL. It's illegal (apparently) to vote in both primaries, but I'm fairly certain Cochran isn't on record requesting democrats who have already voted in the democratic primary to come vote illegally for him the GOP primary. Do you have a link to that?
    You have already addressed the fact that he did request the votes of Democrats. Do you honestly think that he was only requesting votes of non-voting Democrats? I think that assertion would be absurd.
    He made no distinction, had he, I would say he would be covered sans any other outright fraud.
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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    so I don't feel too sorry for the man.
    No one said you had to. I don't feel for him either.
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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    The following page is an example of three.
    Not sure what that is. When we vote in Oklahoma we sign the register. A polling official (usually a nice little old lady) signs the page as well... I see no signatures. I'd like to see the polling register that shows the citizen's signature on both the democrat register and the GOP run-off one. It is 'odd' to say the least that a democrat poll book would be at a GOP run-off, or that the dems would go through the GOP run-off looking for 'their' people.

    Still fun to watch the GOP form a circular firing squad...

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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You have already addressed the fact that he did request the votes of Democrats. Do you honestly think that he was only requesting votes of non-voting Democrats? I think that assertion would be absurd.
    He made no distinction, had he, I would say he would be covered sans any other outright fraud.
    Why is that? There was little to no opposition in the democratic primary, and only 84,000 voted. About 560,000 Mississippi democrats voted for Obama in 2012. That's a lot of potential democrats out there who have a recent history of voting (roughly 480,000) to motivate, no need to resort to voter fraud.

    BTW, about 400,000 voted in the GOP primary.

    It was a turnout game, and Cochran turned out democrats. Maybe some of them cast illegal votes - we'll find out when the lawsuits are filed I guess. I'm sure this is GREAT news for the democrat running against a GOP in open civil war though!

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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Not sure what that is. When we vote in Oklahoma we sign the register. A polling official (usually a nice little old lady) signs the page as well... I see no signatures. I'd like to see the polling register that shows the citizen's signature on both the democrat register and the GOP run-off one. It is 'odd' to say the least that a democrat poll book would be at a GOP run-off, or that the dems would go through the GOP run-off looking for 'their' people.

    Still fun to watch the GOP form a circular firing squad...
    Looked fishy to me, too. I have no idea who made those notations, but it surely isn't from the polls because I don't think they knew on 6/3 that there would be a vote on 6/24. The only thing I could figure is someone got a printout, was hand writing the people who voted, and this is their check sheet.

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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Not sure what that is.
    I do not know why.
    I told you it was an example of three crossover votes.
    You can read the information in the image that says; Democratic Poll Book | Election: Hinds County Primary. Which shows two columns for two separate dates. Which shows three voted in each primary.


    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    It is 'odd' to say the least that a democrat poll book would be at a GOP run-off, or that the dems would go through the GOP run-off looking for 'their' people.
    Not at all.
    It was explained in one article that that is the exact purpose behind this. Both get to review the others books to keep the elections honest.


    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Still fun to watch the GOP form a circular firing squad...
    A RINO really does not represent the GOP.
    Sop all we really have here is the establishment supporting a RINO and not a real Conservative.
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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    A RINO with an ACU rating of 88%. National right to life - 100%. NEA - 0%. League of Women's voters - 0%. NRA - 100%.

    Hilarious.

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