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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No. Any number of variations makes it possible.
    You are assuming that Cochran knew what Saleem was doing.
    Well, yes, I'm tying an official of the campaign to the candidate. That's a fair assumption, but unless Cochran was an idiot, there wouldn't be a smoking gun anywhere, and likely he'd be 3 steps removed or more with a person in that link that will fall on his sword for Cochran.

    But what you said was this: "this is just Dems acting normally like Dems." And that's just wrong, as Saleem was directing the dems, paying them directly, etc. It would be republican party operatives working for Cochran who were bribing corruptible democrats to commit voter fraud.

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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    But what you said was this: "this is just Dems acting normally like Dems." And that's just wrong, as Saleem was directing the dems, paying them directly, etc. It would be republican party operatives working for Cochran who were bribing corruptible democrats to commit voter fraud.
    And no it isn't.
    If Dems didn't act like that, then there would be no one to fraudulently buy a vote from. And if true, then the Dem voter was selling their vote they cast to a Dem - The Rev.
    Which is "Dems acting normally like Dems."

    If that is what happened, and if that is what was intended by Saleem, and if he did interact with the Dem who already suffers from fraud in his background.
    Just to many damn "ifs" to make any judgement at this time.

    And tying Cochran to it just because the person was in his camp is absurd without any evidence of his direct involvement.

    You have no idea if Cochran is involved in this aspect. It could be Saleem acting without his knowledge or on behalf of another.
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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Is anyone in the media world taking these claims seriously other than conservative blogs?
    No. But look at it this way - if they weren't doing this, they might be doing something really dangerous.
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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And no it isn't.
    If Dems didn't act like that, then there would be no one to fraudulently buy a vote from. And if true, then the Dem voter was selling their vote they cast to a Dem - The Rev.
    Which is "Dems acting normally like Dems."
    And so GOPers acting like GOPers is fraudulently buying votes? OK. I guess we can agree. Both sides and all that!

    And tying Cochran to it just because the person was in his camp is absurd without any evidence of his direct involvement.

    You have no idea if Cochran is involved in this aspect. It could be Saleem acting without his knowledge or on behalf of another.
    No, I don't have any direct knowledge that Cochran was involved, but as far as I'm concerned the burden shifts to Cochran to prove he didn't have knowledge of an illegal vote buying scheme running openly out of his campaign offices.

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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    And so GOPers acting like GOPers is fraudulently buying votes? OK. I guess we can agree. Both sides and all that!
    You do not know that to be true.
    All we have is a self incriminating information from a dem who has been involved in fraud in the past.
    In other words; - A dem acting like a dem.



    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    No, I don't have any direct knowledge that Cochran was involved, but as far as I'm concerned the burden shifts to Cochran to prove he didn't have knowledge of an illegal vote buying scheme running openly out of his campaign offices.
    He has no such burden. Nor do you know if there was a buying scheme out of his office.
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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You do not know that to be true.
    All we have is a self incriminating information from a dem who has been involved in fraud in the past.
    In other words; - A dem acting like a dem.
    You're hilarious. You sooo want to condemn democrats and apologize for the GOP that you're willing to believe the Rev. is telling the truth about buying votes for Cochran, but want to disregard the key part of that story that directly implicates the Cochran campaign, and/or GOP operatives working for Cochran.

    He has no such burden. Nor do you know if there was a buying scheme out of his office.
    Like I said, if you believe the Rev's story, there WAS a vote buying scheme being run out of his offices. He says he went there to pick up cash, and that Saleem delivered the cash in envelopes directly to him in the field. What part is true and what part is false. Do you think democrats in Mississippi woke up one morning and decided to start buying votes for a GOPer, just because he's a good guy? Did this cash just fall out of the sky?

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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    If the story is true, you may be more than wrong.
    Did you not read what was stated before your post?

    If those emails are true, this is an actual event.
    But it still may not be directly connected to Cochran.
    What I mean by that is; Yes he requested support from dems to win the primary and contracted out to do that, but had no idea that they were going to use fraudulent actions to get those dems to turn out.


    As far as I am concerned though, it should disqualify him regardless.


    So support your assertion and show, that if true, he intended for the hired Dems not to be honest in getting folks to vote?
    I am sure you can't.

    If he didn't know what they were up to, as in how they were going to do it, this is just Dems acting normally like Dems.
    Are you saying that it's ok to buy votes but not ok for the bought voters to actually vote. Or are you just trying to whitewash the fact that the Conservatives committed voter fraud? Which is it?
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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The Conservative in this primary was McDaniels, not Cochran.
    Conservative, Republican, Tea Party... they're all GOP, no difference. Unless and until the conservatives and Tea Party get the intestinal fortitude to form their own party they will forever be GOP.
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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Just FWIW, I think the Rev. is full of it, and I don't care at all which far right winger represents Mississippi. Mainly because I don't know any self respecting con man who would agree to take his fee for a criminal conspiracy on the back end, AFTER he's done all the work and risked jail doing it. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he's not that dumb.

    What it looks like is the Cochran campaign DID hire people in the black community to get out the vote, they've admitted all that and it was clearly a big part of his win. But he's talking about handing out envelopes of cash to hundreds of people, personally, and thousands more across the state. That's just not something that should be hard to prove, especially if you're a 'journalist' willing to pay for a story.

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    Re: BREAKING: New Allegations Point to Cochran Campaign in Mississippi Senate Vote Bu

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    Conservative, Republican, Tea Party... they're all GOP, no difference. Unless and until the conservatives and Tea Party get the intestinal fortitude to form their own party they will forever be GOP.
    Your ignorant inability to see the difference does not equal hypocrisy on the part of the people who actually know the difference.
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