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Iraq receives fighter jets from Russia

notquiteright said:
Well another point is the time lag between receiving planes and effectively using them. I remember a poster who is extremely fond of scuttlebutt, claiming expert knowledge that just the slowdown in training would 'gut' the Navy's squadrons as the curve to get back to proficiency would be long and slow. Imagine having to start from scratch... :shock:

I suppose Russian 'volunteers' could fly them, it does seem like Western Powers can't stop from taking turns doing stupid stuff in the ME- from the Suez Intervention of the 50's to BushII's attempt to garden in the desert. The Soviets and now the Russians have tried to dominate the ME for decades- and done a miserable job of it.

Let's not hog the grief that is attempting to control the world, let the Russians pour some down the rat hole too.... :peace
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Well said. I'll bet Baghdad International is a very busy place these days, til the ISIS militants come and shut stuff down for everyone. It'll be like an airfield in Vietnam all over again. I agree, let the Russians have the place if they think they can win. Then the US will be arming ISIS to just kill Russians like America did in Afghanistan.
 
DA60 said:
As usual, the media gets it wrong...apparently they are used Su-25 (NATO code name Frogfoot).

They are ground attack aircraft, sort of like less capable A-10 Warthogs.

Definitely NOT fighters.

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Well, that would make sense given that ISIS doesn't have an air force.
 
DA60 said:
What difference does it make?

Of America's total oil imports, less then 1/4 comes from the ENTIRE Persian Gulf (Canada alone exports almost twice as much oil to America as Saudi Arabia).

U.S. Total Crude Oil and Products Imports


And China has no problems getting enough imported oil and they have ZERO troops on the ground outside of their borders.

Why?

Because the Persian Gulf states will sell to virtually anyone as long as they pay...which is exactly the way it should be.

America, imo, could import just as much oil from that region - and at a far lower cost in taxpayer money and American lives - if they just left it alone.

The Persian Gulf needs western money a WHOLE lot more then we need their oil.
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The difference it makes, is that Russia controls most of Europe's oil and gas. If she gets her hands on a significant portion of the ME's oil and gas, she could use that control as a very destructive weapon.

Stalin controlled all the food going to The Ukraine. One day he cut off the food supply and 5 million people died. If Russia cut off all the oil, it could easily start WW3...that's what difference it makes.
 
AJiveMan said:
...the US will be arming ISIS to just kill Russians like America did in Afghanistan.
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You think Obama will compound his incompetancy like that?
 
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