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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    No, no jobs for American Indians.
    We have a few where I work.

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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    What would your criteria be?
    Willing to put in a hard day's work at a job most Americans wouldn't take? Great.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Willing to put in a hard day's work at a job most Americans wouldn't take? Great.
    Wouldn't we be better off as a nation if we made it more beneficial for Americans to take these jobs?

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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Of course, but I'm willing to bet that most employers of low-price illegal immigrants are conservative.
    If the US is serious about stopping illegal immigration, wouldn't you think the easiest way would be to simply stop employing them? How hard could that be? Who's the villain in the scenario, the wetback or the guy who employs wetbacks? Toss a few hotel operators and golf course owners into Joe Arpaio's tent city and see how quick that works.
    You make a point, but honestly do you understand how ****ing derogatory the term wetback is? People who use the term look like racist douches and if you called someone that to their face you'd likely get the holy living hell beat out of you and I'd be cheering them on.

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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    The article cited in the OP was really pretty well done I thought and completely non partisan, and it makes perfectly good sense. It cited legal and illegal immigrants as included in those stats. And others have made a good point that often new immigrants are just happy to be here and they are willing to do the jobs in the service industry that the native born Americans might not be so eager to take before the unemployment and other benefits run out. So almost all the folks working in restaurant kitchens, as janitors and housecleaning services, in construction grunt jobs, hotel and motel maids, and similar lower paying service jobs are going to be mostly immigrants in many areas of the country.

    But if the government cuts off all that extended unemployment insurance and other government benefits, then native born Americans will again be taking whatever employment they can get and, with usually more education and better language skills, the immigrants won't be able to hold onto such a strong monopoly in those jobs.
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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Wouldn't we be better off as a nation if we made it more beneficial for Americans to take these jobs?
    How would you propose we do that?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Winchester View Post
    You make a point, but honestly do you understand how ****ing derogatory the term wetback is?
    Apparently I don't. All I can do is quote my reply to another poster... It was a literary device meant to juxtapose the poverty and marginal status of the illegal immigrant and the cynicism of the businessmen who use them.

    People who use the term look like racist douches and if you called someone that to their face you'd likely get the holy living hell beat out of you and I'd be cheering them on.[/QUOTE]

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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How would you propose we do that?
    "More" can be a relative factor. Make getting social benefits contingent on working these jobs nobody wants. Make it so it would be less benificial not to works, even these jobs nobody wants.

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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I do like the work ethics they have. However, it is because they don't get the same social benefits south of the border we give. They appreciate the exchange of labor for pay. Perhaps people should realize we are too generous as a nation, when we have people not willing to work, so that a workforce ends up needing to be imported.
    Or maybe employers need to raise pay and they'd get 'native born' workers to apply and do the jobs. It's no surprise that 'native born' workers expect a bit more than grinding poverty for a full time job. In Mexico, of course, there is starvation as an alternative.

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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    One other thing about the OP, the fact that job growth has gone mostly to illegals is a damning comment about the economy more than anything. We've killed millions of good jobs, with job growth only at the very bottom of the wage scale where a Walmart job is a significant step UP from the bottom.

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