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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    The majority are.

    Isn't it estimated that we have about 10 times the number of illegals entering this country each year vs. legal permanent?
    Probably because our legal immigration system is completely absurd. The apex of bureaucracy. Lengthy, convoluted, expensive, and for a lot of people who don't fit the right criteria literally impossible without winning a random lottery.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Probably because our legal immigration system is completely absurd. The apex of bureaucracy. Lengthy, convoluted, expensive, and for a lot of people who don't fit the right criteria literally impossible without winning a random lottery.
    Your post sounds as if you believe illegal immigration in order to steal benefits from hard working Americans is justified.

    Usually those who complain about America's immigration system in this manner are those who primarily believe that even more foreigners should be granted American citizenship and such American citizenship should be sprinkled about much more quickly, sort of a demand for a "Come one, come all" immediate acceptance that benefits non-Americans, regardless of the damage to the United States.

    Is that your position?
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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Usually those who complain about America's immigration system in this manner are those who primarily believe that more foreigners should be granted American citizenship and such American citizenship should be sprinkled about much more quickly, sort of a demand for a "Come one, come all" immediate change that benefits non-Americans.

    Is that your position?
    No, those who complain about America's immigration system are the ones who are familiar with it. A dutch immigrant who is a Vietnam veteran and has worked hard his whole life in America shouldn't take 50 years to become a citizen.

    Or should he? Is that your position? Good enough to fight and bleed and risk his life for your freedom but not good enough to vote?

    As for my position. Yes. Someone who is willing to come here and work hard for a better life deserves a chance to do it. They deserve the benefits of being an American more than many Americans do. The accident of geography that had me born inside an invisible line does not make me more special than someone born outside of it. Someone who came here, got an education, got a job, kept a clean record, and started a family deserves to stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, those who complain about America's immigration system are the ones who are familiar with it. A dutch immigrant who is a Vietnam veteran and has worked hard his whole life in America shouldn't take 50 years to become a citizen.

    Or should he? Is that your position? Good enough to fight and bleed and risk his life for your freedom but not good enough to vote?
    Your post is non-responsive nonsense.

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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Your post is non-responsive nonsense.
    Is it? How come you didn't acknowledge that Vietnam veteran? Is that how you envision our immigration system?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I'll bet that is coming from the point of view that capitalists are conservatives only, and that conservatives are republican.

    I wonder if you understand the argument, switching from republican/democrat to liberal/conservative.

    They are not synonymous you know.


    Yes it would, but the liberals continue to stop any regulations to do so.


    I'm sure there are those who do not appreciate your racist bantering by using the term "wetback." What other racial slurs do you use? Does that somehow many you feel superior to some of my friends?

    The illegal immigrant is generally guilty of little more than wanting to provide for his family. The employer however in my opinion should loose hos business license if a private contractor. Corporations should be highly fined or broken. Those responsible for choosing illegal employees over those with the legal right to work are dispicable, regardless of political leaning.


    I completely agree with jailing those who knowingly employ illegals, or who do so by turning a blind eye.

    Note:

    Your bigotry is not appropriate.
    I agree with all that you said, but in bold. What you are asking is for those in business and or a person hiring a gardener or house keeper to do the work of our government. How about the government doing it's job and enforce our existing laws and secure our border. Then you don't have to rely on a person hiring an illegal house keeper, which is not their job to do all the screening for our government. Now the worst part, our government is letting millions of illegals walk across the border and when they do they look for a boarder guard to take them to safety in the US. And you expect john Doe to not hire an illegal that has no clue if the person is illegal or not and has no means of proving either way an illegal from a legal person.

    You want to excuse our government from doing it's job and push the burden of our illegal problem onto employers. No, stop the illegals at our border and all the rest goes away. Further there is no way in hell our government is or can police each and every business or person to investigate if they hired an illegal, especially when our government and state governments and police etc can't even ask for proof of citizenship.
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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Is it? How come you didn't acknowledge that Vietnam veteran? Is that how you envision our immigration system?
    Too many illegal, lifetime dependent Hispanics already here have created the problems faced by that Dutch immigrant Vietnam Veteran that you care so much about. Don't you agree?

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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Too many illegal, lifetime dependent Hispanics already here have created the problems faced by that Dutch immigrant Vietnam Veteran that you care so much about. Don't you agree?
    Illegal immigrants made it harder for him to become a citizen? How so?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Probably because our legal immigration system is completely absurd. The apex of bureaucracy. Lengthy, convoluted, expensive, and for a lot of people who don't fit the right criteria literally impossible without winning a random lottery.
    What would your criteria be?

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    Re: Net job growth since 2000 went to immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Study: All Employment Growth Since 2000 Went to Immigrants | National Review Online

    So we're doing a good job creating jobs for illegals, but not the Americans that were here in the first place.
    No, no jobs for American Indians.

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