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    Supreme Court Strikes Down Buffer Zones For Abortion Clinic Protests

    I agree with the decision, but now those Westboro Baptist Church douchebags are going to be allowed to go right up next to the casket with their protests at funerals. That sucks.

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    Supreme Court Strikes Down Buffer Zones For Abortion Clinic Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    except for private events such as funerals courts are striking down these free speech zones left and right as unconstitutional. which they should be.
    But funerals, at least the vast majority that are held in publicly open cemeteries, are not private events. If there is no buffer zone at abortion clinics, there can't be buffer zones mandated at funerals.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Buffer Zones For Abortion Clinic Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    But funerals, at least the vast majority that are held in publicly open cemeteries, are not private events. If there is no buffer zone at abortion clinics, there can't be buffer zones mandated at funerals.
    Funerals (at least Many funerals) in america are religious gatherings/events that hold a high ammount of meaning for the families of the deceased, one could say that allowing protesters at funerals which directly upsets and disturbs the practicing partie's observance of a religious practice. As such I believe the Freedom of Religion clause would trump the Freedom of Speech clause, at least for funerals which are private religious events.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Buffer Zones For Abortion Clinic Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    But funerals, at least the vast majority that are held in publicly open cemeteries, are not private events. If there is no buffer zone at abortion clinics, there can't be buffer zones mandated at funerals.
    yes there can be a funeral is a private affair not a public one. while it might be held at a public cemetery the ceramony there is still private.
    you don't have the right to harass people there.

    there is a difference between a private funeral event and an abortion clinic.

    if you want to try to be my guest but don't blame me when someone calls the cops for harassment.
    i know i would be the first to do it.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Buffer Zones For Abortion Clinic Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I agree with the decision, but now those Westboro Baptist Church douchebags are going to be allowed to go right up next to the casket with their protests at funerals. That sucks.
    no they won't a funeral if a private none public event. even going to the cementary and any cermamony there is still considered private.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Buffer Zones For Abortion Clinic Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    yes there can be a funeral is a private affair not a public one. while it might be held at a public cemetery the ceramony there is still private.
    you don't have the right to harass people there.

    there is a difference between a private funeral event and an abortion clinic.

    if you want to try to be my guest but don't blame me when someone calls the cops for harassment.
    I can look up anyone's obituary in the newspaper and go to the funeral. It is not private. Would it be disrespectful to go to the funeral and protest right next to the casket? Hell yeah. But it is within freedom of speech. If they can't enforce buffer zones at abortion clinics, then they can't constitutionally enforce buffer zones at a funeral that is held in public.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Buffer Zones For Abortion Clinic Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I can look up anyone's obituary in the newspaper and go to the funeral. It is not private. Would it be disrespectful to go to the funeral and protest right next to the casket? Hell yeah. But it is within freedom of speech. If they can't enforce buffer zones at abortion clinics, then they can't constitutionally enforce buffer zones at a funeral that is held in public.
    Yes they can THE MAN. Because the PROTESTS are disturbing and prohibiting a RELIGIOUS PRACTICE (Most funerals are Religious) and thus Freedom of Speech would be subverted by Freedom of Religion. All funerals would be protected cept for those pesky atheist funerals.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Buffer Zones For Abortion Clinic Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    no they won't a funeral if a private none public event. even going to the cementary and any cermamony there is still considered private.
    The funeral is not private. Anyone can go to anyone's funeral if it is held in a publicly open funeral.

    It is the one backfire of this Supreme Court decision.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Buffer Zones For Abortion Clinic Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterLiberty View Post
    Yes they can THE MAN. Because the PROTESTS are disturbing and prohibiting a RELIGIOUS PRACTICE (Most funerals are Religious) and thus Freedom of Speech would be subverted by Freedom of Religion. All funerals would be protected cept for those pesky atheist funerals.
    Separation of church and state. Freedom of religion does not trump freedom of speech in this country. People are free to practice their religion in public, and people are free to protest right next to them if they wish.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Buffer Zones For Abortion Clinic Protests

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterLiberty View Post
    Funerals (at least Many funerals) in america are religious gatherings/events that hold a high ammount of meaning for the families of the deceased, one could say that allowing protesters at funerals which directly upsets and disturbs the practicing partie's observance of a religious practice. As such I believe the Freedom of Religion clause would trump the Freedom of Speech clause, at least for funerals which are private religious events.
    actually no that is not true because Westboro Baptist can't violate your right to freedom of religion because they aren't the government. The Constitution limits the government not the Church. But funerals can be on private property as synagogues, mosques, temples and churches all can own the cemeteries so they can ban whatever they want inside. Now at municipal ones there could be a problem but to suggest that because it is a religious service there can be no disturbance is not a legal position.

    This ruling, while correct does pose a new problem. What can the protesters do and not do. If they go back to attacking women verbally and pushing things in their face they should be arrested for assault. I think we may have to organize armed escorts. (that seems to be a thing the right should get behind).

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